I keep checking back on this thread to see if the updated sounds have been released yet, but all I see is more about how they hacked the plane to make it fly somewhat realistically, and that it feels too light. The CRJ will most definitely be my first and last purchase from Aerosoft. Such a shame the twotter was botched so badly, I was really looking forward to it. But, I want quality for my money, and I agree with those that see Aerosoft as hacks, I don’t consider them pros by any stretch. Ill give my money to PMDG, Milviz, SWS, Fenix and others who show they have full command of the SDK and produce high quality aircraft. I love the CRJ but the issues with that plus the half-baked twotter mean Aerosoft has put themselves on my ‘don’t buy’ list.
Most twotter owners ignore this discussion. Very wise. I don’t care what the moders think or what
their beef is with AS. Or Cap Sim for that matter. You pay your $ and you get your goods good or bad period. Simmers who want to have a aircraft that is pure fun and a joy to fly will ignore people with a agenda and make their own decision.
I’m not a modder nor do I have an agenda. I do, however, want to let people know (for those looking for objective facts) that AS is 4+ months past their release date. They have not released a new sound set, which by their own admission wasn’t well done right from the start. They have also, by their own admission, added weird things to their code trying to account for changes to the sim because they’re unsure of how to implement the physics. All this, despite the fact that they’ve had community members release code which worked and did exactly what a reasonable individual would expect from the developer. Now the plane is extremely difficult to control in low power conditions, namely on final approach. So, as you so succinctly put it, buyer beware.
interesting…If I were a developer and saw innovations such as these, I’d want to harness their strengths and improve my product accordingly!!
That is not it at all. It is well documented the modders have it in for AS over some copyright issue. They lost that crusade. You make it seem the plane is trash and if you like the plane you, are a causal simmer. Not serious. That could not be further from the truth. Yes it IS your agenda. You are trying to presude buyers not to buy from AS. Plane and simple. That facts say it is not working. It rated 4.2 in the market place and has sold over 400 copies. Most likely 4x that direct.
Secret modder agenda!
We get it, Aerosoft can do no wrong, but how do you explain away the sounds?
The aircraft is good, and it is good value for money, but Aerosoft themselves identified issues with it which they promised to address. They’ve gone radio silent though.
Over 4 months with no word is a long time.
Really nonsense. There is a very vocal minority here complained as loud as they can, but there are many many more people having great fun with this aircraft.
I can’t explain away the sounds.
I just don’t understand why other planes with flawed sounds don’t get the overblown hate.
(Looking at you, my amazing 247D)
Probably helps that developers of other planes don’t gaslight their customers
The only gaslighting I am seeing is people pretending a plane is for casuals solely because it has an occasional sound glitch. Or pretending an invisible spoiler isn’t a tool used by virtually everyone who makes add on planes.
But we have established long ago this thread is it’s own bizarre universe… folks outside of this thread quite like the plane.
I think the issue with the Otter’s sound is the weird cutoffs and inconsistencies when feathering, not to mention the horrendously loud engine startup sound. The 247 sounds are a nice little puppy compared to the Otter’s monstrous sound disasters 
I think it is more that the time it takes and how that spoiler seemingly doesn’t work all that great and that the CRJ also still has issues.
You don’t hear the phasing? It drives me crazy.
Meh… sounds are weird. Different problems effect different people. I’m far more bothered by the 247D sound issues than the Twotter… but I work in sound and I understand how someone else would be bothered by the Twotter and not have a problem with the 247D. They DO both have some glaring issues.
In either case, I regularly fly both planes in spite of their odd glitches.
I really don’t have a plane that is issue free (except maybe the vanilla 172 and Cirrus). But compared to some of the issues I deal with in other planes? Sound is no big deal. And it doesn’t have much impact on how you fly the plane (it does have some… warnings and engines sounding healthy or troubled and whatnot).
I’ve never had to record an airplane… sounds fun though! I would expect it to take a good while. First, you need to find a plane, and someone with the equipment to record it. Then schedule time to rent and use the plane (it may need to be booked months out). Then they have to send the recordings off to be edited and mastered. Then they need to start applying them to the simulation and start adjusting according to specific needs. There is no fast track to good sound. It takes massive amounts of work hours to achieve good results with new recordings.
I can see that project taking a couple weeks for a team of a forty. Much longer for a more realistic team of three or four. Even if they are quite experienced in this. Add to that, they need the sounds to be great this time or folks will flip out if the replacements are as flawed as the originals, so I would expect a bit more QC this time around and that too will add to the time.
Knowing they got their primary recording finished shortly before the last patch dropped, I expect the next patch should have new sounds… and frankly, I am not too surprised it has taken so long.
It would be much quicker to do what some of the freeware folks do and work with an already existing sound set.
Not the hardest job in the world, recording a plane and getting all the sounds cleaned and fit for the sim… but by no means a quick and simple task, either.
It is not just a matter of, “I got a new recording! Now I can put it in the sim!”
It can be annoyingly time consuming.
I specifically pointed about the weird cutoffs and the engine startup sound in the Twotter. Forget about the phasing issues, not talking about that. My point is the 247D does not have this issue. Sound guy eh? music field?
Oh, you misunderstood. The 247D has phasing. Anyone with ears will notice the occasional glitch with the Twotter. But phasing happens in that Boeing and I cannot un-hear it because it is constant… one engine is cancelling out the sound of the other so they go from quiet to loud to quiet… it is quite subtle but if you have ever mixed electric guitars in stereo, you know it must be avoided (or used as an intentional effect). So I am probably extra sensitive to it. But I DO empathize with folks bothered by the Twotter sound. Really, once something bothers your ear it is almost impossible to tune it out.
I mostly work in dialogue (commercial stuff, film, narration), but I hobby in mixing rock music and I am an amazing mixing engineer in my own mind! 
Yeah for sure i do hear the phasing with the left engine canceling out the right on startup. I hear you! But it still does not compare in my opinion to the far more issues that are present with the Twotter sound pack. How can anyone beat those feathering and startup sounds? Not even Godzilla can 
It is so funny how we don’t all get bothered by the same things.
I mean, I cannot deny the Twotter sounds are very flawed, but I can deal with them. That Boeing, that’s something I cannot tune out.
And every time I fly the Kodiak I have to pull a fuse to get good FPS! That is an unforgivable bug for some! I just think of it as another step in the checklist.
Sometimes we let some big issues slide, while we dwell on the really small stuff in other planes!
Brains are weird.
Yeah well for me, i can live with a constant phasing issue (until it’s fixed of course) by lowering my PC volume to 30, but i cannot tolerate the sudden jumps and cutoffs while feathering. I’m not gonna open old graves since the Twotter sound issues has been abused far enough. In other words, i will tolerate a dim light but NOT a pulsing out of control light (bad analogy but i hope it made sense to you).
I want better feathering all around on this bird…
Look at us pretending all Twotter pilots do in air is feather their props! I guess it really isn’t the biggest issue. But it is sure noticeable.
The Twotter’s sounds during normal flight are good enough for me… it is those, “Oh ****!” moments in flight where you have to quickly adjust throttle or prop or fuel that they really let me down, but truth be told, I usually fly it pretty standard and boring and rarely make the type of quick adjustments where the sound glitches start getting BAD. And once I am in the air, I usually play some music or a podcast, or a YouTube video of a new plane review, so my engine does get turned down to where it is just white noise to prove the plane is still flying.