AI aircrafts misses taxi pathways

C0rsten · March 12, 2024, 7:33pm

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Are you using Developer Mode or made changes in it?

Yes, when recording, but occures also when dev mode disables. Clean MSFS without enabled addons with the recording.

Which aircraft are you using that experiences this issue?

this is about stock AI Aircraft with stock trafficAircraft.bgl.

Brief description of the issue:

AI aircraft are missing taxipahts along on its way to end of the runway. They end up taxiing out of the aiport.

Provide Screenshot(s)/video(s) of the issue encountered:

https://youtu.be/qMyolACBGjI?si=0hI4Y2ES5nfHMRHJ

Detailed steps to reproduce the issue encountered:

Enable AI Offline traffic, go to for example KSPY and use increase sim rate to catch AI aircraft to depart. Then follow it when it is taxiing.

PC specs and peripheral set up:

7800x3d, 4090, 32ddr4, 1440 monitor.

Are you using DX11 or DX12?

DX12

Are you using DLSS?

Yes, Ultra quality setting.

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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?

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Are you using DX11 or DX12?

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MichaelKehr · March 12, 2024, 7:58pm

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?

yes

Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:

the aeroplanes taxi all over the airfield.

Are you using DX11 or DX12?

DX12

Are you using DLSS?

yes

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Fwou · March 12, 2024, 8:00pm

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?

Yes

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Any general aircraft in PAYA have the issue for exemple

Are you using DX11 or DX12?

DX12

Are you using DLSS?

Yes, balanced

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KaelaNikNak · March 13, 2024, 2:47am

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?

yes

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i watched A320 drive through downtown Miami at 75 knots

Are you using DX11 or DX12?

DX11

Are you using DLSS?

no

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HB427112 · March 13, 2024, 4:11pm

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?

Yes

Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:

AI aircraft taxi all around the airfield taking no care of taxi paths.

Are you using DX11 or DX12?

DX12

Are you using DLSS?

No

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C0rsten · March 13, 2024, 6:20pm

this is the situation now. 90% of the yellow taxi aircraft are actually in the forests finding taxi paths.

https://youtu.be/fl-irqkF3KM?si=VuMim8djedWv8KG1

C0rsten · March 16, 2024, 8:40am

This is so embarrassing behaviour with SU15 beta. It has get worse update by update. Now every aircraft misses taxi paths in certain stock airports.

https://youtu.be/QfZrBhtgh1o?si=6RG30PzXfa3eUXnD

SageLobster5901 · March 20, 2024, 2:44am

I’m wondering if it has anything to do with the increased taxi speeds. Its evident that they have increased, but not sure if the logic has been adjusted cause it seems like the aircraft are searching for a waypoint which is a ‘fly-through’ point meaning it has to cross that point before it can sequence the next waypoint. When that happens, it can overcorrect for the next point. I do agree though with each update in the beta, the behavior has gotten progressively worse. Live AI is not usable at this point due to number of aircraft stuck across major airports.

C0rsten · March 20, 2024, 5:20am

I tought this too. I will try aiground with decreased taxi speeds.

C0rsten · March 23, 2024, 6:45am

Interesting times ahead. Apparently bug “cant follow taxi paths” arent bug in AI traffic behaviour by itself, because AIG models works great: https://youtu.be/DTUj3GErYgQ?si=I6H8N-6vCBLO_AYy

So now i have to find the problem inside of stock models´s .cfg files. I will keep you guys updated in this matter.

edit. I can confirm this. Using AIG´s C208b .cfg files with stock c208b… it worked!

C0rsten · March 26, 2024, 6:14pm

ok, this is kind a bug, but can be fixed. Gamod models had modified wing_span, to have every aircraft in airports availeble. But this was the case, they didnt have ability to follow taxi paths because of that. Byt MSFS was working great earlier with these modified wing_span values but with su15 beta it did get unplayble.

C0rsten · March 29, 2024, 6:22am

The bug still exists! Even with su15 beta updated C172.

https://youtu.be/mrVgcOa9r8A?si=xXA9-5jxhHpkFvbM

DEDFS68 · March 29, 2024, 10:06am

hello asobo team,

thank you for your new SU 15 Beta 1.37.11.0 March 2024

but unfortunately it is still quite right on the runways with big winds, the AI Real Traffic

at my home Airport EDDF Germany
is still not the RWY 18 West,
and on the NW RWY 07 L is landed zar correctly, but unfortunately unrolled until the end and not the first or the second junction could be improved that would be possible

DEDFS68 · March 29, 2024, 8:24pm

now briefly to the traffic worldwide no matter if you Europe is the AI Real Traffic, you should still fix short leg touch down the runway, is short the plane there, then it is wg ploped almost at every airport!