Air Manager G1000 needed!

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@XAxSys I made a Comms panel (EDIT: “Audio Panel” ) in AM for the C172. I’m not sure if you’ve released one or not. It seems like the only thing we can get working is the Comm selectors. However, this is probably the most useful buttons and is what I needed for touchscreens (besides maybe listening on NAV). I do also have the DME, ADF and NAV indicators working based on event status but the toggle buttons don’t exist/work in the SDK yet (EDIT: Found them and they do work). I wanted to learn how to create AM panels so I dove in reverse engineering your G1000 and the other instruments to learn. If you haven’t started on the Audio panel I’d be happy to send it to you. You are free to edit, include pieces (or say it’s garbage :slight_smile: ) as you see fit to get the most realist G1000 suite for AM. I only spent about 3 hours on it, but learned quite a bit.

**Also open to anyone else who wants it of course.

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In case you didn’t know, the default Air Manager GMA 340 comms panel already works with MSFS without any modification required. Pretty much the same functionality as you describe in your version. The important stuff works.

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No I didn’t know that!
I did get this to fit nicely on WIMAXIT 15.6” monitor. I just wish I could find a good picture of the com panel to use. I just screenshot this one from MSFS20. I still need to make it transparent png to remove white corners. But it’s good enough for the minute.

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Oh… You made the G1000’s audio panel? If so, can you share it? I SOOOO want one of those to complete my setup…

EDIT: BTW there are already graphics there for the X-Plane version of the audio panel. The commands don’t work in MSFS, but the graphics are already there.

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(Mine doesn’t work. It’s just a placeholder because it looks good…

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Actually you sharing that the GMA 340 works just made my night! I found the commands for NAV1, NAV2, DME and ADF buttons !!!
I’m already 80% done with the buttons right now. I’ll upload what I have in a few minutes. It needs graphic works, as I just screenshot the Audio panel from the game. The only thing I can do is make the background transparent but on my sim computer I don’t have photoshop so I’ll do that tomorrow. But you can use what I finish tonight in a few minutes if you want.
Is that a paid X-plane panel? I see the generic G1000 for X-plane but I don’t have the Audio panel.

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Nope. It’s one of the included ones. Search for the GMA 1347. You should have it if you have AM Beta 4.

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Well here is tonight’s version. I’ll mess with the graphics tomorrow. I did add 1 quick option in the panel, you can enable or disable the buttons when they are pressed. I just have a generic button when they are pressed so if you don’t want to see anything when you press the button just disable it.

MSFS2020 C172 G1000 Audio Panel (GMA 1347) For Air Manager Beta4. Version 1.2 2-23-2021
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ZN-iQ1B5uQxvbwrSR5Ll3XRVVNxSFvPS?usp=sharing

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Thanks for that, my dude. This is going to make a lot of people very happy. You got my thumbs up that’s for sure.

I’ll download it tomorrow evening when I get home from work and give it a shot. It’s the missing piece for my G1000 planes for my panels to look perfect. Finally I can put the GMA 340 away for those planes. It worked perfectly, but didn’t look right.

BTW, your graphics actually look pretty decent from that pic you posted.

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I did find the XPlane GMA 1347 Audio Panel. Now that I know what it’s called I googled it and I’m pretty sure the author of the xplane one took the picture from the actual manual as they are very similar. I could change it from my graphic to that one pretty easy.

Let’s see if anyone else chimes in. I was able to build this in 2 nights and I would classify my coding skills as basic. I’m sure my code could be optimized more. But I’m guessing there’s a bunch of other authors out there who’ve built it because it really was easy to build- Hopefully with better graphics. Lol

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I loaded your GMA1347 panel up in AM this morning real quick before leaving for work to take a look at it. It looks good and it works. I didn’t actually try it in the sim since I didn’t have time, but the buttons work in AM, so I assume they do what they’re supposed to in the sim as well.

The only issue with the graphic is that it isn’t “flat”, but rather suffers from camera perspective since it’s a screen shot from the game. I quickly hit it with a curves adjustment in Photoshop to bring down the shadows to darken it and make it match the G1000 bezel more closely, and it looks pretty decent IMHO. It would look better with a proper, flat graphic, but this works.

At worse if you really wanted to improve the look, I would suggest using the graphics for the X-Plane version. You’d to modify your code to match the coordinates for button placement and the swap buttons for when pressed. The XP version already has all those coordinates in there, so it’s matter of copy / paste. The XP version also has darkened “pressed state” buttons for all buttons vs just a generic N/A one for all of them, so that would have to be added too. But you’ve already done all the heavy lifting in terms of programming. This would essentially be adding a paint job.

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Hi all. Thanks for all the great contributions to us folks wanting to fly with a virtual cockpit!
I have a short question (hopefully on topic). If I would go the AirManager route, and get the GNS530/430 combo, would this work in combination with the available 530 mod?
And a second question, can someone point me to some noob-documentation, because I am quite new on this.
Thirdly which touch screen monitors do you use? I currently have a Beetronics 8TS2 8”‘touch’ screen mounted, but I cannot get the touch working in Win10.
Thanks again and have a great day!

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Yes, I’ve built a panel in AM with the 530 and 430 for the 172 and it works great with stock and the mods for these. It shouldn’t really matter as the keys you’re pressing are on the frame. As for monitors, I only use a 22in touchscreen where I can squeeze all the instruments I want and make the panel realistic. I’ve seen others run multiple smaller monitors, imho a waste of resources and immersion. But for that, you have to get above 15in. I don’t see the need for another touchscreen unless I’d put a jet overhead panel above me.

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The GNS530/430 should be displayed on the screen you see here (where LNM is running right now). Maybe in portrait orientation. Hence the 8”. For me it’s immersive enough in this way :grinning::+1:.

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Be sure to check the mega thread on this and related questions, at Full G1000 control now with Mobiflight - #563 by SummaryBloom472. Good examples of setups, various instructions, etc. The title is confusing, it IS about using Air Manager for the GPSs - G1000 mostly, but also G530/430 - the Mobiflight stuff (which otherwise is for hooking up your own Arduino-powered hardware) is only included because they have some clever solutions to getting to the last of the buttons and other events that MSFS isn’t surfacing properly just yet, hence it needs to be installed.

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Sorry, I didn’t know you were running so many FIPs. I got rid of all of mine after I switched to Air Manager. Anyways, good luck with your setup.

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I think with a cockpit like that, a 15" touchscreen of some flavour mounted in portrait mode plus Air Manager would allow you to nicely stack both the 530 and 430 on top of each other.

Would highly recommend a Knobster (bought or home-made) to go along with it to use the GNS knobs. Using knobs on a touch screen is an exercise in frustration if you ask me.

Nice cockpit, btw.

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Yes, thanks for the tip about the knobster and the 15”. I found out about the existence of such a device just today! This will become a dream cockpit (@Rothas2k) with even two more fips who are about to get mounted once I have my 20 port, 150w usb hub delivered :joy: and the Bravo next to the Alpha which probably will come in May.
Happy flying!

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The knobster is a wonderful little thing.

Air Manager + Knobster + touch screens is basically the ultimate control without actually buying units like the RealSimGear GNS units.

In your case, you have a dedicated C172 cockpit. So while Air Manager is definitely a good addition, you don’t get the full potential of it since you have all the FIPs to display your flight info. But you can still use it for whatever you want.

In my case, I fly several different planes. 2 15" monitors plus an iPad running SpaceDesk (using as a wireless monitor for my sim computer) plus air manager give me everything I need.

For my beloved C172, I run the main instrument panel on one of the screens. I had a bit of space so also included the GMA 340 audio panel into this panel. My knobster activates any of the knobs on the different gauges in said cluster.

My GNS530 is on the second monitor at slightly larger than life size, along with a few other controls such as fuel valve, fuel selector, trim indicator and flap indicator. All knobs on the GNS are also activated by my Knobster.

The GNS 430 and transponder are on the iPad on the side table, also fully Knobster enabled. This allows for a 100% mouse and keyboard free operation of my aircraft.

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For G1000 planes, it’s similar. I have the PFD and audio panel on the left screen, and the MFD on the right. The iPad has other controls like parking brakes, trim indicator, flap indicator, etc.

In this image, this was the ‘generic’ setup on the day I got my second 15" touch monitor. I’ve since started creating custom panels for the different G1000 planes I fly with the backup instruments and such. For many of the G1000 planes, this is also a mouse and keyboard free experience. Although there are a few odd planes (C208 like DA62) that have specific functions for which there are no key binds nor SimConnect variables. Those still require mousing around the virtual cockpit.

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I also have a setup I’m still messing around with for the TBM 930 and the G3000. Sadly, Asobo’s touch support is pretty broken atm, so that requires extensive use of the mouse and / or keyboard.

My ultimate long term goal is to set up something a little more permanent vs this “mobile” setup that I can move away from my desk when not in use. I will likely build a standalone cockpit setup with a separate computer, a 48" TV as my monitor, and have my touch monitors and iPad mounted in a more permanent fashion.

This is my intermediate setup. I have all the hardware I need now and it’s as functional as it can be, limited only by Asobo at this point.

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Wow. Thanks for sharing. This is inspiring! I see what you mean by having the possibility tot easily switch instrument lay outs per plane. Mine is indeed a more dedicated cockpit, which by the way is very easily removed from my desk. It is actually very light and only attached by the two clamps of the Alpha. Tomorrow the cockpit stands on its side again, beside the cupboard, waiting for another weekend :grinning:
Oh and by the way, the idea is to screw two 3D printed supports for an iPad on the Alpha (and maybe also on the incoming Bravo). In this way I am able to run Air manager on those when I want to fly an airliner or so. In that setup I’ll not use the fips. What do you think of such a swappable setup?

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Sounds like it would give you a nice, workable setup. Although if you were going to use iPads on both the Alpha and Bravo, that can get rather expensive. A pair of the 15" touch monitors (Wimaxit make some with VESA mounting holds), the mounts for those monitors from Stay Level Avionix, and a knobster would likely be a far more flexible and ultimately cheaper solution.

But what you suggest would also work. I used the iPad and an old Android tablet as my 2 displays for quite some time before upgrading to these monitors.