Aircraft Checklists to provide a raging clue, a.k.a. Commentaires sur les listes de contrôle

There needs to be focus and urgency on getting the checklists built for the aircraft and released. Even if it means checklist items are marked as “Not Currently Available”, but a description is provided to give people that raging clue they are all looking for.

Frustrations stem from differences in expectations vs reality.There needs to be a consistent baseline expectation of how to use each aircraft from cold start → to takeoff → to flying/crashing → back to spin-down.

Half of us fine people on here haven’t the faintest clue how to operate a single engine prop, let alone a twin-turbo or jet, and that is just dandy (no, I mean it, really). If you want people to look at the platform favourably, then there needs to be SOMETHING to work off of. I know nothing about the G1000 or any of the other fancy-shmancy glass cockpits; Without some basic checklists and operational procedures, I have no clue if what I’m seeing are bugs which I need to report, or me simply being daft and not using the system correctly (The latter being a waste of time if I report as bugs).

And I say “shmutz” to anyone who wants to reply that certain features aren’t implemented yet; that is a cop-out. :policewoman: I give money (several canadian monies, mind you), and Asobo gives me instructions, and a game.

I’ll have you know that I’m perfectly capable of crashing these planes into the hardpack all on my own! I don’t need a total lack of checklists to do that. Everyone wants to fly these planes without dumbo the AI haphazardly bouncing us into the air, and then sketchily (barely) around the pattern (if you’re lucky) and back down again. It’s hard to do that when the buttons don’t work and there are no instructions.

Every, single, time I jump in a new aircraft, I’m finding the checklists barely go any further than “How to Start the engine, probably”. I don’t believe for a second these aircraft only have “engine start” procedures. The real ones are full of old-school baby-boomers. THEY THRIVE ON CHECKLISTS (whoa, take it easy boomer, i’m just ribbing your fiddle or however you say it)

Some of the checklists will be pretty close-ish the reverse of startup too; This is ready work for a pimply-faced junior dev. If there are special procedures for every checklist, or some janky scripting engine that needs to be used to build it out in the UI, then autobots should assemble the right team and get crack-a-lackin’ on them.

You could say all this for the tutorial series as well. Respectfully and with love, if the core engineering teams don’t know the checklists of most of the aircraft nearly by heart, I question their commitment to the mental gymnastics of flightsimming. I’d also secretly wonder, aloud, in the public forums, if they really understand any of the aircraft they are trying to so lovingly implement; perhaps that is why they aren’t done yet :wink:

Avoir des bonbons,

R

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Great post. To carry this a little further, it would be nice to be able to edit checklists in each aircraft so that I’m not ruining the XML file. Just being able to add activities/checks and save/commit to a particular aircraft would be invaluable.

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Hello there! I love seeing other :canada: Canadiens on here! Manitoba represent!

While I agree there needs to be more to the checklist, I found going through the actual POH helps a ton - it is a sim after all (you mentioned the G1000, im guessing you’re piloting maybe a C172 Skyhawk, :blue_book: POH is here).

Otherwise videos on youtube on G1000 will help too (on flight plans and general usage (this one is on FSX - but the nature of sims is that they mimic reality so a tutorial on one sim should apply to another)), so will looking for your specific plane (WEH videos’ C172 Steam Gauge, there’s a whole lot more out there - Rob Machado’s lessons).

I found there’s ton of content that are specific to MSFS which is just perfect because its geared towards this sim.

In the mean time, you could go through the #self-service:wishlist and make a suggestion on there or upvote a similar topic such as this: :ballot_box_with_check: Expand checklists to include after engine start and cover the whole flight

I hope these help and get you off the ground and safely back!

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You can probably make your own mod if you copy the .xml to a community folder (Like the A320 mod) then you can edit all you like and keep the original. You can mod almost everything that way.

Edit: Even better is to check the single file FPS_FIX

Honestly the lack of checklists past “engine start up” on many of the aircraft in the sim scare me with regards to the developers intentions.

Like, did they deliver something that while beautiful, is utterly half baked and intend to leave it that way? Why in the hell wouldn’t you finish writing checklists into the sim, was it that ■■■■ difficult?

The idea that you’d just get the average joe to the point where they got two engines turning and then let em figure it out for climb out, cruise, descent, landing, post landing - not to mention emergencies - jeeez…

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I don’t mind editing the files since I can just keep a backup, it’s the hunting for the correct information. I have edited the file for my current favorite to include all of my checklist items, but it’s lacking sim-specific points like camera views. Its working, but what a pain when theoretically one could add/delete checklist items from within the checklist function in the sim and save for future use. Thanks for the information on the community folder, without documentation I had no idea where literally any of the files were located.

This is one of my favorite posts in this forum. Hear hear!