Drop you a pm as it would alter the main thread of this topic
Personally I really tempted to give one last upgrade of this setup with 5800x3d then put a new series GPU (exact type will depend of their performance and bottlenecks), then later swap to the next gen ryzens when prices settled a bit (new mobo, CPU, ddr5 etc)
Good idea to wait. Not just price wise but a new gen platform is never fully optimized on release. Give it about a year after introduction for the better motherboards
and bios to be available.
One last upgrade to the 5800x3d could easily carry you for another year or two
Just managed to get a 5800x3d at MSRP. ![]()
For anyone in the EU, Cyberport.de has them in stock. They were sold out everywhere earlier today.
EDIT: They seem to be sold out now. Mine already shipped thankfully. I’ll be ready for the PMDG 737 and the Leonardo Maddog MD-82 ![]()
buyed there too xD
Just installed my 5800x3D - very happy with the result. Significantly fewer stutters and the fps remains higher almost all the time. I am seeing a lot less “limited by main thread” messages.
Good purchase I think.
I’m normally an Intel person, but from what I am reading here and seeing on reviews on YT and other places, this 5800X3D CPU seems to be the best MSFS CPU right now, especially in reducing/eliminating stutters, and is great value too. I’ll certainly be recommending this to others as the CPU to get for an MSFS build and will lkely even get one, or its successor if it continues the performance-leading trend, when it comes time to upgrade my system.
Good to hear as I’m about to build a new PC with this. What GPU do you have paired with it? I’m planning on a RTX 3080 (assuming prices continue to fall).
I have a 3090…but even with the 5800X3D MSFS is mostly held back by the CPU. The larger VRAM on the 3090 helps quite a bit, but the 3080 is more than sufficient.
Good luck with the build.
yeah, I am expecting Ryzen 7000 3D models to come too, according to the rumours the 7000 series will be much faster too. I would not be surprised however, if the non-3D variants came first, and 3D variants follow later.
Depending what you wann do:
4K, Ultra and live weather, VFR flights in low altitudes i can’t get stable 60 even with my 3090 FE.
That’s strange, are you sure, your GPU is fine?
Did a Test some days ago.
4K, Ultra preset with 50% Rendering, DV-20: I get up to 152 FPS, CPU-limited. So that’s what the new Ryzen X3D is possible to do (Munich Area, PG on but deinstalled)
If i set 4K 100% rendering, I’m GPU limited ~72 to 80 FPS
But yeah, If I’m going low level through NYC (so between the buildings), I’m also still CPU limited ![]()
no…stable 60 is not going to happen with current hardware and and 4k ULTRA in a city unless maybe you are far from the ground and in a low complexity aircraft.
For me, it’s the stutters that destroy the immersion. If I can stay above ~30fps without slow-downs then I am happy. The 5800x3D makes all the difference with this. Much better than my old 5950x.
(3090 FE + 5800X3D on a customer water cooling loop)
so it is the 5800X3D better than the 5950X? becouse i’m thinking to I am thinking of making the change
For MSFS: Yes, the 5800X3D is a lot better.
For productivity software that makes use of all 16 cores / 32 threads of the 5950X? Hell no!
It depends on your workload. Just so you can’t say we didn’t warn you ![]()
Well, I know everything has been said about this processor, and obviously I´m not going to say anything new. But since I ran some numbers to compare it with my previous Ryzen 9 3900x in MSFS, I thought maybe someone could be interested too.
DISCLAIMER:
This is not intended to be a rigorous scientific test. Just some quick checks to compare with my base line and see if I wasted my money, or it was worth it.
TEST METHOD:
I don´t know how to recreate exactly the same conditions for both processors, so what I did was this:
I opened a new flight in the same gate of the same airport with the same plane. Then I selected exactly the same time of the day (12:00 UT) so the shadows and lighting were the same. I used the “scattered clouds” weather preset. Cloud coverage is similar this way, but individual clouds are not the same, so there are some differences. Then I moved the point of view to be as similar as in the previous test as possible, but didn´t turn crazy trying to match every pixel.
I can´t control IA aircraft at the airport, but don´t want to remove them because they are a must for me, and testing without them wouldn´t be the way I use the simulator. So some details varied from test to test, but in the end had little impact in frame rates.
I repeated the test three times with every location and processor, and used the median of the three. Results were very similar, despite little differences in clouds, POV or AI aicraft at the airport, with differences down to 1-2 fps. It´s good enough for me (maybe, not for you).
TEST CONDITIONS:
FS-2020 SU9 run as admin, 4K (100%), DX-11, TLOD 200, most settings in Ultra, a few in High (volumetric clouds), Photogrammetry On, IA Aircraft density in airport 100%.
VSync on, and 60 FPS cap. Yes, my mistake, I just forgot for the base-line with the 3900X, so I did the same with the 5800X3D. Not the end of the world, both would have scored a bit higher (never went above 60 fps in the complex scenery I used for testing).
System: Asus Prime X570 Pro (latest AMD drivers and BIOS), 64 Gb DDR4-3200, nVidia RTX-3080 driver 521.59. Sim installed in Samsung EVO 970 1Tb M2 drive.
Aircraft: A32NX experimental version 27/4/2022. Volotea 8K livery.
Tested at (external view and in-cockpit):
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Madrid Barajas LEMD from LVFR, gate 325. Madrid default photogrammetry on (plus LVFR´s improvements on it).
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Palma de Mallorca LEPA, from JustSim, gate 22, with Maestro Erzo´s extraordinary and highly detailed photogrammetry in the background.
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Santander LEXJ freeware, gate 1. Again, with Maestro Erzo´s amazing Santander photogrammetry in the background. Only exterior view.
(By the way, I call Erzo “Maestro” because he deserves it, it´s my compliment to him, but it´s not his official name in Flightsim.to).
TEST RESULTS:
ADITIONAL COMMETS:
I was really surprised to see how much the new processor improved in LVFRs Madrid Barajas. Main thread times whent down to less than half (so, potentially could achieve more than double the frame-rate the 3900 did), and became limited by GPU, still with a healthy and unexpected almost 50% performance boost.
Unfortunatelly, this aiport was very stutter prone before, and when landing there with the 5800X3D, still gets some light stuttering. So, it performs much better, but still not good enough to prevent stutters on final. I don´t know what is causing this nor how to prevent it.
General impresion elsewere is of a MUCH smoother experience than before. Almost no stutters at all. The 3900X also suffered from some stuttering in Palma de Mallorca, and in this airport the 5800X3D was totally, completely, absolutelly stutter free now, despite it being a complex airport, and having Erzo´s Palma photogrammetry in the background.
Frame-rate there improved only 13%, but the feeling of it was much much better than the 46% gained at Barajas. Bottom line: what kills / saves the experience is not average frame rate, but the low 1% (which I didn´t measure). Hardly something new or surprising to anyone…
In the air, now I´m almost always hitting my V-sync 60 fps cap. That was unexpected, I didn´t think the 3900x was the limit in that situation, but aparently, it was (I only use developer mode very seldom, when performing tests like theese).
I´m happy with the upgrade.
I gave up a lot of performance for image processing sofware going from 12 to 8 cores, but that is something I seldom do. I had to wait several minutes anyway, so it´s not the end of the world. I play FS-2020 maybe 5 times a week, so for me, the change to the new processor is worth it.
The problem is… now I need a faster graphics card…
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Best regards.
I have a very similar set up so many thanks for your test! Still a bit of a shame that the stutters are not all gone. Thinking of moving from 3900x to 5800x3d for VR.
It would be useful to see more test of people in VR. It is still not clear how some people claim they do not have any stutters in VR which is arguably more demanding and they are not necessarily use what appears to be the best CPU around…
I currently have a Ryzen 3700x, I think upgrading to the 5800X3D I would see a major improvement in FPS? I have a RTX 3070ti GPU and 32GB.
definitely!
But to be clear, the absolute fps is rarely the problem in MSFS, 30fps is fine in most cases. But the stutters, the stutters ruin everything. And you can’t do much to fix them, reducing the gfx settings, traffic etc.. all help a little, but in a complex aircraft and a detailed airport the stutters are always there.
The 5800x3D is just fantastic. I swapped from a 5950x, the sim is much more enjoyable now.
p.s. I have a 3090…but my 3090 is just chilling out, even on Ultra 4k. The performance is usually held back by the CPU (when near or on the ground in a complex aircraft). Your 3070ti is more than sufficient.
Perfect! Thank you so much for your reply.
BUMP. Looking to upgrade my 3700X but feel like its a bad time with with the new chips coming out ion the next 6 months possibly. Trying to take into consideration that the Zen4 (for me anyway) will require a new board and new RAM as well. Thinking the 5800X3D should last at least a couple before I need to pretty much build a new PC with AM5. I have a 2070S now but thinking about pairing it with a 3080 10GB/12GB or a 3080Ti. Anyone else make a recent upgrade like this? Happy with it?

