That seems like pretty simple math to me.
How is it possible to fly from airport A to airport B without taking off or landing?
That seems like pretty simple math to me.
How is it possible to fly from airport A to airport B without taking off or landing?
Flying multi leg flights will yield 0 takeoff notations but count your landings. The one instance Iāve seen this happen was a two leg journey showing 0 takeoffs and 2 landings. Iāve also seen what you are reporting as well no take off or landing logged for a single leg flight.
It is hard to understand what logic the sim uses for recording various events in the Logbook. Zero take offs and 2 landings recorded on my last flight, the one before that zero take offs and zero landings; flight times donāt seem to reflect chock to chock times but maybe do reflect airborne time, Iāve never checked. Absolutely though, there is an historic problem with logbook entries. I have been in this sim since Day 1, flown most days since then, (around 90% Iād say) and I have just 206 hours recorded. Not that Iām too bothered mind you.
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When it comes to strange T/O and Landing counts, Iāve seen pretty much any combination you can imagine. What inspired me to make this post was a flight I made last night that I flew from parking to parking, and T/O and Landed at two different airports located hundreds of miles apart, yet logged zero takeoffs and zero landings.
As we can imagine, thatās impossible. And the programming logic required to recgonize such an impossibility is easyā¦ even for me who hasnāt coded since languages now since long forgotten have gone obsolete.
Something like this, logically if not properly formatted to C++ or whatever MSFS was written in:
IF āFlight Startā = āOff Groundā, THEN log a minimum of 1 T/O.
IF āFlight Endā = āOn Groundā AND āPlane still flyableā, THEN log a minimum of 1 Landing.
That alone will solve the 0 T/O to 0 Landings logged flights, which is so very common.
Itās just another example of just one longstanding problem that would seem to have a simple solution that is being ignored by those responsible to fix such things.
Another example (maybe Iāll post about it, too) is the fact that KTLH (Tallahassee, FL, the Stateās capital) has no taxiway lighting (in the sim, rest assured they are there IRL), and hasnāt since v 1.0. A fact that I have shared, officially through the proper channels using the proper paperwork, since the first week I got the sim (the day of original release), and repeated at least half a dozen times.
Naurally, I got one of those āform-letter responsesā to the effect that the problem was āresolvedā, which does not at all even mean āresolvedā, but to this day, there are no taxiway lights on the field.
EDIT: I forgot to address your issue/question about logging time. The official legal way flight time is logged is wheels up to wheels down. Airliners log that automatically. For GA aircraft, we use the Hobbes meter (which MSFS planes are equipped with, though they donāt seem to keep proper track of usage, and seem to completely reset to zero if not on every single different use of an equipped aircraft, or at least quite frequently.
The Hobbes meter technically is ācounting hoursā anytime the engine is on, but at the low RPMs involved in startup and taxi (which is how a Hobbes meter works, itās really counting RPMs and converting them to a close approximation of flight time, not the actual flight time itself), the āextra timeā you may be legally allowed to write in your logbook is statistically insignificant at those low RPMs.
Iāll take your definition of flight times Kev. Iām ex (UK) military where flight times were chock to chock - back in the day of course. Long since retired.
From my own experience in the sim I have deduced the following:
A takeoff will only be recorded in the log book if appropriate clearance has been given for the take off from ATC. (If no ATC clearance for take off is given then it is unlikely the log book will record a takeoff!) For touch and goās takeoffs can be recorded, iirc, if the aircraft has been cleared for a circuit by ATC and slows below a certain really slow speed on the runway, before taking off again.
Landings only seem to be recorded if, again, the airspeed drops below a certain low limitā¦ No ATC clearance seems to be required to ālogā a landing.
Is this the way the developers intend it to work? I have no idea. The concept of wheels on the runway and wheels off the runway would make sense to me in terms of recording a landing or takeoff.
I use this workaround to make sure my takeoffs from uncontrolled airports are logged: