You won’t be disappointed! there’s tons of profiles out there on the brunner cloud and no two airplanes feel the same. I tuned my own c172 profile to give that feeling your talking about. Getting in to slow flight actually feels close to the real thing for me. The brunner software takes in airspeed and a bunch of other data to calculate the forces on the yoke. Pretty much all forces are tunable to get the feeling your looking for.
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I have received the delivery date to be March 6th. I see forward to the challenge to configure it the way my Logitech yoke was. So far I am happy to just have achieved a first preliminary setup with 3 monitors, each with a 3840x2160 resolution which adds to 3x3840 horizontal resolution, more than what is defined by the capabilities of the RTX3840. So now from left to right I have a 28" monitor, a 32" monitor and another 28" monitor, each of the with a 3840x2160 resolution.
It really looks amazing for me!
I have the plan to connect my 2 24" monitors via the Thunderbolt 4 interface of my motherboard. Those will be operated by the graphics functionality of my 11700k CPU.
I finally settled on three 1080p 32" monitors. This is a balance between the space they take In the room and the load on the graphics system, when also powering three touchscreens running air manager.
I like having the three screens surrounding me and it feels immersive, but the yoke I use is the best bit: it’s a Fulcrum one.
It has no force feedback: it’s a superb bit of kit with real heft and long throw and a lot of rotation. It uses proper bearings, proper springs (not rubber bands) and hall effect sensors not potentiometers. Wasn’t cheap, though.
Your reply helps to feel confident at such a heavy investment. But the experience coming from the yoke should make a big difference.
I am unable to get into the forum of Brunner, it claims I did enter the wrong word. I tried to enter it based on what was suggested and it always claims I entered the text wrong.
By the way, I have received my Brunner yoke:
Here a partial that shows the Brunner yoke not yet integrated.
Awesome! How do you like it? Im coming up on a year next month of ownership with it and can’t go back to any other yoke!
I have finished my monitor setup using 5 of them!
I had to expand my desk by 27cm so that I have enough room to place the keyboard and other peripherals on the desk and still be able to use it for programming or email. I have also built something below the desk where I can slide a board on which the Brunner yoke is mounted. Right now I am connecting a seventh monitor, just to be able to see how many monitors my PC can handle.
Also on the last foto here you can see my 2 power quadrants which I had mounted but no decided to mount them in a different way. Unscrewing the screws that mount the quadrants is proving to be very tedious.
I’ve been thinking about one of these for a bit now, th CLS-E MK II model.
I noticed a couple of things about it, that it doesn’t have a hatswitch on the left, and doesn’t appear to have any rudder trim at all.
What’s the little joystick like on the right of the yoke? Could that be used as the hat switch for quick views?
They look like decent bits of kit if it weren’t for such simple absences.
Something else I hadn’t appreciated until watching a few YT videos of them is just how noisy they can be. I shouldn’t be surprised as I have a Logitech G295 FF wheel, and that rumbles really loudly when in full swing.
Joystick on the right is the hat switch essentially. I usually remap that for aileron/rudder trim in most cases. There really is nothing like it as the forces can more closely match what each unique aircraft is doing. A C172 doesnt feel like a 737 with this yoke since the brunner sims hydaulics ect vs cables. 105 kts in the 172 vs slow flight - different feel. That’s this yokes strong point for me. Im on just over a year with it and its built extremely well, and operates just like the day it arrived. Granted, this is only just over a year, but since I log my sim time, this is roughly 520 hours of use since I started using it. I’ve been impressed so much that I recently ordered the matching pedals. I was blown away by failing one engine in the 414 to see what its like. I haven’t done any multi-training but it felt as everyone I know who has described lol.
Edit: just read the part about noise. Mine doesn’t seem noisy at all. There’s some noise sure but no real rumbling or anything. I wonder if its how/what its mounted to.
Is it belt driven, or direct drive? My wheel uses gears, which apparently is where the noise is coming from, and I wasn’t prepared to pay ~£1000 for a direct drive version, which are supposedly much quieter.
From what I have read, the FF setup is kind of garbage in, garbage out. Without any experience of a given plane you wish to fly, how can you really know what feels realistic, and what doesn’t? If you’ve flown before you’ll have a very good idea for the plane you have flown IRL, and that can give you some insight into other planes, but for someone who never has, where do you even begin?
I have most of my time in a 172, with a little time in an archer and a warrior. Anything past that is purely a guess. I think its belt driven based on looking through the slot of the pedals, but far as I can tell its a pretty robust heavy-duty belt. There are also downloadable profiles in the “Brunner Cloud” where IRL pilots have tweaked and shared their profiles for various aircraft.
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I am tempted. I could get around the absence of a rudder trim switch by using two of the momentary switches as a left/right trim I suppose, and the little joystick in place of my current yokes hat switch for quick views.
I did see earlier that Virtual Fly have a new yoke out, with a full 90 on roll, but sadly no FF from them.
I dig the virtual fly stuff, except for the fact theyre nearly as expensive as brunner. I had the yoko prior to the bunner but just couldnt get used to it. It just feels very spongy to me.
That’s probably the bungee chords it uses for tension.
VirtualFly is super expensive for what it does… Been using the brunner system since MFS2020 got released and it’s absolutely mind-blowing. Yoke and rudders were my first investment and then the rest of the switches and stuff. Do yourselves a favour and get the Brunner system instead of investing in VirtualFly.
Here’s my BrunnerDeskPit:
I totally recommend investing a bit more and buying the MKII version and no the NG. It has better motos/forces and travel. The MK yokes are used in the Lufthansa GA training facilities.
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How are you mounting your Logitech panels under the desk? That looks cool!
double sided mounting tape. I did the same for the rudders and the throttle table. No screws needed. I wish it would work for the yoke as well but it weights a ton and it would never hold but I will drill some holes on the side of the case and put some support brackets to mount it under the desk as well.
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I will investigate. I tend to dismantle my setup fairly often because I use it for other things, including working from home. But if the tape is cheap, and strong enough, I wouldn’t mind buying rolls of it every few months.
This is a thing of beauty. Awesome setup!
What monitors are those?