With very local static METARs implemented and stretched out to be global observations it will never be the same as before again. Thats my opinion.
As a RL pilot, flying mainly in the USA Eastern Coastal area, the new weather effects are FANTASTICLY realistic, but it is fast becoming apparent that clouds MAY are being injected at the incorrect altitude.
A few test should confirm that very easily.
Unlike some of the apparent True / Magnetic issues, that are a little less obvious and hence more difficult to prove.
Including METAR in the weather system is a way to move back already. Improving meteoblue weather and fix ATIS to report the correct data from that weather is move forward.
That is true. Sometimes the transition is far too stark, from the enroute weather system to local METAR.
Having flown into a number of small airfields recently which donât have METAR readouts, it seems that this is the only way to experience pre-SU7 weather from wheels up to wheels down.
It makes it all the more silly that we werenât given a toggle for this feature.
Point taken. I guess I have to agree with you. Maybe have a METAR on/off toggle for the VATSIM crew?
Or they could use the sims ATIS to note the conditions at that airport if it manage to give right information. That i think is the big problem to fix.
If this is true, it should be relatively easy to (hot?)fix, which is yet another reason that I would vote against the proposal to revert to the previous system.
Few things in MSFS have been criticized more than the somewhat imprecise and too slowly updating Real Weather system. But now that system is suddenly considered adequate?
With SU7 Asobo/MS have taken the first step in a long journey towards a much better system where METARS are injected in the model itself, and where updates are coming much more frequently. The latter is essential because it means that the inevitable forecasts will be more recent and therefore more precise. We all know that the weather forecast for the next couple of hours is more reliable that the one for tomorrow.
So far I have seen nothing but a much closer representation of reality. A few glitches does not mean that the core of the system is broken.
I guess I donât follow. Are you saying the ATIS should reflect the vatsim real world METARS or the actually sim conditions. If it the former the weather conditions would not match, if it is the latter then it would be different from the VATSIM controller.
It might appear so, until one looks at what is involved, not only in making the change, (which might only be in One line of code), but then, it has to be tested, and made sure it does not affect anything else, the change documented, and the testing documented, and then a new build generated and released.
or
Someone just changes the code, hopes for the best, and we see the results in the next update.
Got to wonder which one it will be ?
Maybe VATSIM should adapt and have two platforms. One for old METAR system and one for MSFS system. I donât know.
Or Vatsim should have the Policy â âNo Metar left behindâ ![]()
Seriously, just FIX it and get it right â Its not Brain surgery !@
Whatever makes you say that? METARS are frequently updated and quite precise weather data at the locations where accuracy matters the most in a flight sim.
Besides, METARS have been used all along; the difference is that it is now injected directly into the modelling instead of added as an afterthought in the sim.
Which is exactly what theyâre aiming at by using METARS as an additional data source for weather generation.
Yes but it will be static and accurate. Without itâs dynamic and not that accurate. I think itâs hard to manage both. They had problems before and now they have two different things to manage togeather. The real weather is not static you know. And if they blend it it will not be accurate anymore. If we blend something we do not know how it is afterwards.
I agree it is hard, but I think if they get the transitions correct it will be an improvement for many (but not all) flyersâŠ
IRL a METAR observation is not transission into something. Itâs an observation of the current weather that happened. Itâs old a second later. Itâs like a picture. Not dynamic. Meteoblue is like a movie of the weather that moves in time. With calculated data globally and i prefer that. It needs to be the same for everybody. That is the most important. They can add simulated weather stations in the sim that observe the weather at those locations instead and report METARS of the sim weather.
METARS are not âstaticâ. Theyâre a snapshot of the weather data at a particular point in time, not a period, and thereâs no reason that they should âfreezeâ the weather situation 100% until the next METAR is released. Donât ask me exactly how the injection into the weather engine is handled and precisely what effect is has, but of course the weather at an airport should not stay exactly the same between updates. If people expect that, theyâre not asking for realism but for VATSIM compliance.
EDIT: After reading your most recent post, I see that I may have misunderstood you the first time. ![]()
I tried to fly in a few places, and I think I understand a bit better whatâs going on. The weather fronts and the clouds layers are still there, but everything is rendered at a very low heights, I can see clouds forming and popping out of the sea and dry landâŠI wouldnât be surprised if a few layers of cloud formations are even below the ground?!
It feels like the VATSIM is most important for many and that is good. Only that i think maybe VATSIM needs to adapt too. If not we canât never have a better weather system because of VATSIM.
I absolutely agree.