Asobo ATR 42/72 protrusion that's not present on the real aircraft

[JakTrax78]

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Asobo ATR 42/72

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Brief description of the issue:

A small probe or ‘fin’ just the the rear of the undercarriage inhibits take-off. It isn’t there in any real-world images I’ve consulted.

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Protrusion visible directly under the registration.

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[TheSevenflyer]

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It appears to be an “antenna” that was present on the older variants of the ATR and is not on the 600 variants.
These are not on the real world 600 variants.
But they are in the sim, right at the point where the bottom of the aircraft starts to taper up, ahead of the tail rod location.
In the 72-600, it results in a tail strike with even the smallest amount of rotation.

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[DCLTREASURE516]

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There is a probe there! A comparison is below.

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The left is the model in the sim, the right is a picture of an IRL model.

[JakTrax78]

Just updated but the antenna remains. How are people not noticing how difficult it is to take off without that antenna making contact with the ground? It’s currently killing ATR-72 ops!

[lynx33635]

Asobo ATR: modelled probe that inhibits take-off seems absent on the real aircraft?

As everyone has their own idea of ​​what this wart could be protruding or not from the planes, I wanted to show images corresponding to the ideas put forward. I don’t have the exact truth for everything, but I worked for 15 years on ATR 42- 72, from -500 to -600, I still have my type rating courses and this is why I can illustrate my statements and prove that the idea put forward is accurate or not. This protuberance is definitely a VHF 2 antenna, some planes have it in this location, others d…

@Poukiki98711

some planes have it in this location, others do not , depending on their MSN and the modifications applied or not…

This looks like still a big question without clear and definitive status, after reading provided thread …

[JakTrax78]

It doesn’t exist on the real aircraft, I don’t get the obvious reluctance to remove it. I’ve spoken with a number of people, to seek clarification, and it definitely inhibits take-off in the 72 variant. People must be flying it with frequent tailstrikes!

[lynx33635]

@JakTrax78

It doesn’t exist on the real aircraft

This is not what @Poukiki98711 stated, it looks like it would rather be an option, by him, even on the 72. Perhaps depending on OPS or whatever (pure assumption from me) …

So :

• Removing : I can’t say
• Moving to between FR9-FR10, or between FR31-FR32 : probably

For me the best option would be to move it … to let the benefice it would be optional

@Poukiki98711

On ATR 72 :
Following applied mods ,

or

[JakTrax78]

His reply is somewhat ambiguous but we’re already aware some ATRs have it — however I’ve done some research and ONLY early-build ATR-42s had it in this location, on the lower fuselage. I could not find a single real-world image of an ATR-72 (of any series) with this antenna. Believe me, I’ve trawled through many, many pics.

I very much doubt it is an option for the 72 because, unless the MSFS model sits too low to the ground, it’s neigh on impossible to take-off without inducing a tailstrike. On the 42 it’s fine; but not on the 72.

[lynx33635]

So the suggestion is to move it where’s optional, so it will fulfill anyone expectation and will avoid to broke anything on takeoff …

[TheSevenflyer]

I also tried and couldn’t find any 600 variant picture with it in the aft position.

[lynx33635]

I understand and tried to point out perhaps we can’t find any picture on the net and while still stating I confirm I’m not an expert, though does this prevent, it would be an available option on the 72, as are showing the statement and the sketches, that some already have this option installed in RL as Mod ?

[TheSevenflyer]

The only pics I’ve found show it in the position in the front, like those in the drawings you’ve shown above.

[JakTrax78]

I’m honestly not understanding what you’re suggesting. If it isn’t a part of the real aircraft, it should be removed. If it were a real-life optional mod, there would be images of airframes featuring it.

Have you tried to take off in the sim with the typical AOA of an ATR-72? It tailstrikes — no mod, optional or otherwise, would be attached in such a way that it inhibits take-off.

It’s not about being an expert. It’s about observation, probability and physics.

[lynx33635]

What I mean, at least one expert (not me in any case) stated this could occurs in real life as an optional Mod, not sure why it can be heard and the screenshot provided by @Poukiki98711 are showing it with references. Further he stated he worked 15 years on ATR

@Poukiki98711

I worked for 15 years on ATR 42- 72, from -500 to -600

[JakTrax78]

Okay, apologies, I kind of see what you’re saying now. But the antenna in that diagram looks a lot smaller than it does on the MSFS model (assuming it’s to some sort of scale). That figures as it definitely appears too large in the sim version.

I’ve looked at the typical AOA of an ATR on departure and I cannot replicate it in the sim without scraping that antenna along the ground.

[lynx33635]

Could we think moving it, together with scaling it down, would be a good compromise ? If so, it would be a good start point to ask for an enhancement request …

[JakTrax78]

Moving it to its correct place or getting rid of it completely are the only viable options. We can’t currently take off properly with it so something must be done. I’ve done some further research and NONE of the demonstrator aircraft have ever had it. Neither have any of the airlines whose liveries are available from either MS/Asobo or third parties.

[lynx33635]

I’m for moving it This way we would remember it’s available as an option in RL …