Is it just me, or did ATC somehow get worse with SU6?
I’m getting a crazy amount of altitude changes(“Go to 12,000. Now 13,000… Now go back down to 12,000, now 11,000”)
and the barometric pressure isn’t even CLOSE to what ATC tells you. Look at the difference:
Atc is in alpha state, so many bugs… like the rest of the sim, over a year now…so sad
It’s been bad since FSX. I personally just don’t use it, adds very little and if you want more fun use VATSIM. I just do my flight plan offline, and play the ATC role myself. Gives me more to do anyway…
That’s me anyway, and it’s just from years of disappointment going back to FSX. Even with payware ATC addons I never found anything really that great.
I have to ask.
What makes you believe the altimeter setting ATC gave you is wrong?
Same here, on approach atc requested to climb to FL130…
They told me it was 29.93
I was busy getting VS set up in the AP for the altitude change, so I used the keybind instead of manually adjusting. But when I hit “B”, it was actually 30.12.
Keep in mind, this all happened within 30 seconds
You know that the altimeter setting is at their station not at the aircraft location, right? The B keybind is at your location.
A change of 0.15" is a lot depending how far from the reporting station, but not unheard of.
I’m thinking this game is just a Copy/Paste of FSX with a little eye candy added.
What? I don’t think I’ve ever hit B and not gotten the same number that ATC just issued me…
That doesn’t make any sense. Why would it set it to anything besides what ATC just told us? That’s completely unrealistic.
FSX ATC, while more simplistic, did not have altitude issues. And it did vector you to final. So I do not think it’s a copy/paste. MSFS ATC just seems unfinished. If they can iron out the bugs, it could be a good feature, much better than anything seen in the past. I just wish it would get prioritized… make an entire SU an ATC reboot. It’s a fundamental element of simulated flight.
I’m not talking about ATC only, I mean the entire game framework is Copy/Pasted from FSX.
Hitting B is also unrealistic. 
The only way to test your hypothesis is to be sitting on the ground and set the altimeter to the current published altitude. The QNH should then be the same as the current station setting. If you are in the air it is impossible to determine the actual setting at the aircraft location. The reason we set to the station setting is so that the altimeter will be accurate when we arrive at the threshold. Anywhere else, and we are using an approximation.
Nah I don’t think thats the case at all. My point is ATC has never got much love, and even fancy ATC payware had a hard time pulling off the required AI. I also doubt it gets much attention as most people just joy ride without it. Just use VATSIM if you’re hardcore.
Been there, done that.
It’s been long enough…they need to fix or replace.
VATSIM is great, but you are so limited…I like to travel the world. Not the same airports.
Yeah vatsim is a dead world outside of the major hubs. No thx I stay offline
Exactly not sure what “hard core” means, there are plenty of simmers that dont use VATSIM, which are still hard core.
Most of the examples given here and in particular the last above are in mountainous or hilly regions where the computation of descent rate/gradient versus speed and safety altitudes has to be permanently and frequently refreshed by ATC, hence the several (unrealistic of course) instructions and counter-instructions regarding the altitudes to be achieved, you are unlikely to have this in a perfectly flat environment.
Automated ATC is not an easy part to design, the amount of calculations to be made are staggering, this is what most users have little understanding about, the present ATC is a spin-off of FSX, but it has some improvements too. There is no debate about whether it has to be perfected, naturally, but please dont assume this is an easy fix. Does anyone remember FSX ATC flying you into a mountain, well this is what MSFS ATC will not do, but unfortunately, it will (until the time it is fixed) give you this chain of unrealistic instructions designed to avoid having your plane meeting the next stone on your route.
Another change was about ATC refusing a flight plan when the enroule altitude is unsafe, did you notice that?
