Description of the issue: Maximum power on take-off greatly reduced after SU3. I have flown this aircraft > 200 times on MSFS 2020, and at least a dozen times on MSFS 2024 prior to the latest update. Prior to the update, I easily achieve climb rates in excess of 3,000 FPM on both platforms. Now, I can barely achieve 1,000 FPM VS.
FREQUENCY OF ISSUE
How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)? Every time.
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Begin flight with engines running at beginning of runway (assisted take-off setting)
YOUR SETTINGS
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[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it? NO
[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?
[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use? RTX 3070 8GB
[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share? i7-12700KF, 64GB DDR4 RAM
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Actually the listened to the bug reporting and got that sorted out. Actually solved. It was unrealistic overpowered. 3000ft climb rate on this thing was just wrong really wrong actually a bug which got luckily solved
I hate to disagree but the Beechcraft Baron G58 is still very broken as of SU3. It seems like it now has the flight profile and engine power of a Cessna 172. This plane should have no problem climbing at 1,100 FPM and keeping a speed of 150 knots. After SU3 it’s gone down to 700 FPM at a speed of 110 knots.
Russ, your description is spot on to what I have been experiencing, including the comparison to a Cessna 172 which is why I adopted to G58 as my favourite plane to fly in the first place.
I have spent the last couple of weeks trying to re-learn how to fly the G58 to avoid sloppy take-offs, and landings with difficult sink rates to overcome, neither of which I experienced prior to the update, nor in the 2 years flying this aircraft on MSFS 2020.
I see that a number of helpful comments have been made regarding performance issues, and include a link to that thread here: Baron g58 after SU3 - absurd stall speed
In addition to the post that @SimFlyer62 pointed out:
The Baron should be well capable of achieving 1200-1400fpm on initial climb for the real one. To me that was the case BEFORE SU3. Sure it can be “overpowered” as some felt like, but none mentioned taking on a bit of payload and setting the props to 2500RPM with leaning throughout the climb.
We have created an internal ticket to see if our team already has this logged, and if not they will attempt to reproduce the issue and create a new bug report. This item is now marked as feedback-logged. If there is an existing bug report or one is created, we will move this thread to bug-logged.
That was prior to SU3, and it indeed was a rocket ship for climbing prior to SU3. Need to still play around with different loads and configurations, but 2 engine climb at MCP in ISA at max gross seems to be pretty close to the book so far. Cruise numbers are just laughable now though, really not sure what they did to her between SU2 and SU3.
Edit: took it up again in ISA with smoother air, apparently had some good updrafts in my previous tests, climb rates on 2 engines is abysmal compared to POH.
Max gross single engine performance is laughable, barely will hold 95KIAS 25/2500 in level flight with a feathered prop, when it should be able to climb 4-500 fpm at 101KIAS.
Description of the issue: Since SU3, and continuing into SU4 beta 1.6.7.0, climb performance in the G58 is less than all published specs; I can only get between 600-750fpm no matter the configuration of the airplane, the props, the mixture, the throttles. We should be getting between 1200-1700fpm.
FREQUENCY OF ISSUE
How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)? Every time.
REPRODUCTION STEPS
Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:
Start any version of MSFS 2024 from SU3 forward
Load up a flight with the Baron G58 and try to climb out
The climb performance is terrible; 600-750fpm at best
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What peripherals are you using, if relevant:
[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it? N/A
[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12? N/A
[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use? RTX4070 Super
[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share? I9 10900K, 32GB RAM
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Is anyone on beta 4, seeing any improvement on the Baron? Or do we have to wait another year to have the beloved Baron at least catch up to how it was in 2020?
Here we are again… SU4 and nothing has changed for the Baron. How hard can it be to fix at least up to how the 2020 version was, when it was such an amazing aircraft?
Just tried it after SU4 and it still seems to be broken. Power is still way down, about 145 knots at 2,000 msl 26 inches and 2400 rpm. It should be much closer to 200 knots. Also, the stall speed is 10-15 knots to high. Was my favorite plane, and I quit flying MSFS 2024 for the last six weeks because of this issue. I even bought X-Plane but they don’t have the G58 with the glass cockpit.
For those that do have 2020 and lost all their hope of a proper Baron in 2024:
Go to your library (Show all section)
Expand the 2024 Deluxe upgrade
Disable the Baron
Search for the Disabled 2020 Deluxe pack upgrade
Click the expand button and select the 2020 Baron.
Enable that (and when desired download/install)
Now you’ll have a Baron in 2024 that doesn’t fly like a brick, has lean pages in the MFD, isn’t a sloth and has working panel lights… How hard can it be?
