I’ve started to dabble in airliners and really want to learn the 787, but of course being on xbox I have no access to any mods and most youtube tutorials I’ve been using assume you have heavy division mod for 787 or a32nx, etc. As I’m following a tutorial sometimes things don’t match because something in non-mod 787 is different or not working.
Have any xbox users found success using and learning on any of the currently available airliners (including 3rd party marketplace). I’m looking for the most “working” airline available for xbox. Or perhaps I should just wait to dive into airliners until there are improvements in the stock planes or better 3rd party options…
I found some tutorials strictly for Xbox players regarding the airliners. I think the A320neo is a relatively easy one to learn first, then move to the Boeing aircraft later. I took notes during the start-up procedures. That way, I can reference them whenever I’ve not flown the plane in a while.
On Xbox I only have the Standard Edition A320neo and the 747-800.
I’ve been able to do any low or high altitude IFR airline flight with either one.
Naturally, there are some issues with the various systems associated with either aircraft, but I’ve figured out how to work with them as best I can.
The biggest issue, for me, has been with the behavior of the flight management computers when programming an assigned approach from ATC. Most of the time this results in weird u-turn fly back to the previous waypoint sorts of things or turning off in a direction unexpected of the flight plan. Rumor has it Working Title’s fixes for the G1000 NXi are meant to also address the other flight control computer’s “flyback” bugs. Here’s hoping we see that implemented in SU8.
I’ve had success manually advancing the flight plan to a waypoint further into the plan to work around this.
There are a few threads regarding the 747 and strange autopilot behavior, which I’ve experienced. I haven’t been able to make it re-behave, during a flight, once it gets into this state. Only a sim quit and restart will address it.
Out of the two, I’ve had more success with the A320, since the autopilot hasn’t done anything unexpected or strange. I prefer the 747, simply because I’ve a soft spot for those once glamorous giants of the skies.
I completely stopped using stock airliners, too many frustrations. Nonetheless i think it can be a good introduction while we wait (hoping we’ll get some) for proper airliners
I’d say a320 being the easy one and the one who gave me the best time
Excellent, thanks for suggestions. I will go back and focus on the a320neo for now as it sounds like easier/less buggy and hope for future improvements in 787, perhaps SU8. Doesn’t seem like ms/Asobo give much love to their stock airliners but I understand they probably have more important things to work on.
I was using the 2.5 hour 320 sim pilot video with a real 787 pilot and getting frustrated and then at one point he says “787 almost unusable without the mod” which made me think I was wasting my time with the 787 for now. Hoping for more complete 3rd party options in future…(either that, or I’ll end up eventually moving to PC)
For the record this same nonsense occurs in the DC-6 on my PC if I’m using it equipped with the Garmin GNS430, so it isn’t exclusive to the stock airliners or Xbox.
I’m tempted to upgrade to the Premium Deluxe version for the 787, just to see what the fuss is all about!
I also think it’s possible that “real” pilots would be very frustrated by the issues with the systems not behaving as they “should” — these are highly trained professionals whose procedures need to follow the workflow precisely as designed. In some ways, I’d almost wager this makes it harder for them when these systems don’t behave in the sim.
For those of us who aren’t airline pilots, it might be easier for us to deal with workarounds and failings since we don’t know better.
with a proper climb power, some tweak on the MCDU and above all solving the constraints bug the a320 would be really enjoyable even if not getting close to the flyby wire version
they stated it will never be a study level (which i can understand) but i hope default planes can get some kind of updates because some of them can really improve a ton with a bit more love
While the DC6 theoretically could follow the drawn flightplan by PMDG‘s design it‘s of course utilizing the sim‘s own „LNAV“ logic. So yep, won‘t work well. In the DC-6 the best and easiest thing to do (if AP and GNS is desired) to have a look at the GNS map and use the turn knob. You can‘t fly an RNP0.1 RNAV approach with this plane anyway ^^
It was clear, no worries.. I just wanted to add it. I‘ve often found single comments in threads to be helpful so sometimes, when I find it makes sense, I add my 2 or 3 cents ^^
I’ve had success with the A320NEO as well but airliners are really not my thing, so not too much seat time. I prefer the Citation for my civilian jet fix.
I also play on Xbox. I plan the flight in advance, according to the weather arrival airports from the Internet and manually type the flight plan in MFC. Very often, when I fly up at the arrival airport, the ATC gives me a different lane. Then I change the approach lane to FMC. After that, I evaluate the new route plan and if the flight point is not on the way, then I use DIR to set the next point so that it is on the way. That way I don’t have to fly in circles.
You can practice doing this, for example, flying in circles taking off and landing at the airport using Navigraph maps and changing the point of the route.
In the picture, the normal path is drawn in “red”, which is automatically shown when planning a flight into FMC in an airplane. And “blue” is the way to shorten the arrival can choose by DIR. I’ve personally trained like this dozens of times.
Yes, you’d engage the AP or you could hand fly it, but making changes to the FMC while hand flying is a bit tricky.
You’d have the red plan in the FMC, and after takeoff the AP would fly to CHANT. While that is happening, you’d DIR to LEFER and shortcut the flight plan, bypassing CEEGL, TAPPR, DETGY & HAUPT, if I’m interpreting his two flight plans correctly.
