Best posting this in their discord. I’m sure you won’t be alone in your wishes.
Did that already
I’m absolutely done with default ATC, as a VR user I’ll be watching the progress on this one closely.
As BATC will be using a separate window, and not in-sim, I’m not sure it’ll seem so ‘VR friendly’ if you want to see the application itself.
In saying that, this is purely from the visual aspect, and BATC looks to be able to be used effectively with voice only. I’m guessing that’s a VR acceptable compromise as real ATC is voice only after all.
Personally I don’t get some of the push back for BATC from VR users who’ve said that they won’t/can’t use this because it won’t have an in-sim window.
I’m looking to have a go at FSdesktop which claims to bring any active window on your desktop into VR. In the absence of direct compatibility of VR with BATC wonder if this might be the solution.
Any users of FSdesktop like to comment?
Are you a VR user?
If you are experienced in VR and understand how toolbar/VR panel implementation works, we are not even asking for much.
there’s a reason it’s the #2 voted feature request. no-go for me as well.
I’m also not happy about this way. A window inside the sim is prefered
No, not a VR user which is I suppose why I don’t get it. However, once up and running should the interaction with ATC not be purely by voice then? No need for an in-sim window or lack of to be of concern?
Not hating on anyone, just not fully understanding the push back. Unless I’m missing something with the BATC setup where an in-sim UI is a requirement.
Because sometimes things might got slight wrong, or you don’t know exactly what the AI wants from you. Or what you can say. Or you want to look back at what they instructed you last. Basically all the same reason there is a window in the first place.
Is it really needed? No. Is it more realistic if you don’t get to use it? Yes. But It’s going to be major stumbling block for us VR users.
Fair comment. I wonder if the AI will fully support ‘unable’ and ‘say again’.
Devs already said they plan to include a VR panel, I’m not sure if they confirmed it for the initial release but it was certainly confirmed as coming.
As with any voice dictation tech, you’d want to see that it actually heard what you were saying accurately. Plus, the latest video showed those nice ‘last instruction’ boxes which would be great to glance over to.
Further update video posted, traffic injection:
I must say, this is looking and sounding phenomenal so far!
Well, just wow! All respect to the small team that is producing what looks t be a milestone in flight simming.
Obviously so much work has gone into it but again obviously there is still a lot more to do. In reality I don’t think we’re going to see this released for a little while yet, purely because of the work still to be done so I hope we’ll see a little more patience from the community whilst waiting.
The plans they have are releasing this jewel in 2024
Never. Gonna. Happen.
BATC looks amazing though, I know that some have commented on the top-up pricing, but what can a dev do when there are external payments in play? I think it’ll all be fine at the end of the day.
As for the features and this new injection model, oh my - this will be a game changer.
Looks incredible. Clever stuff!!
This looks phenomenal. Keep up the good work, your team is on the cusp of greatness.
Very cool, nice visualization tool. I like the railway switching analogy.
I wonder how it handles users going off script though, that could be fun!
20:51
honestly this was the hard part this
represents the hardest thing that we had
to do is how to sequence all these
different airplanes on the ground how to
make sure they they don’t run into each
other how to make sure they follow the
direct paths and everything once they’re
in the air the air is a lot more wide
open than the ground and so that should
be much easier to sequence the airplanes
you know I’m I’m just not worried about
that one compared to this one…
This one raises my programming difficulty estimating spidey sense though, and not in a good way.
I think they’ll find the aerial sequencing challenge orders of magnitude higher, not less.
A lot of research has been done on this, and it doesn’t appear to be a solved problem as yet, but they may be getting close to fully automated ATC. It has to be capable of sequencing but also flexible and dynamic enough to cater to an almost infinite variety of changing situations. Not just planes (and aviation flight mode/type), but environment affecting planes. eg: https://nats.aero/blog/2020/08/the-challenges-of-fully-automating-air-traffic-management/
Will be interesting to watch it evolve, along with the competitors, in addition to how Microsobo is approaching it.