Check it out, 15fps average boost, that’s big when you’re comparing 58ish fps to 75ish
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Don’t read too much in to it. They’re benchmarking at 1080p, and with a high end graphics card to make sure there’s no GPU bottleneck. Don’t expect the same results on higher resolutions.
They’re still very nice CPU’s and better for gaming then Intel now, but I wouldn’t count on 15fps.
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You can check the in-game FPS counter (need to activate developer mode first) whether you’re bottlenecked by your CPU or GPU. I have a 3600 with a 2070S and play at 4k with 80% render scaling. Airliners are bottlenecked by the CPU, GA planes are bottlenecked by the GPU. Changing my CPU wouldn’t really help my FPS in a C152. It all depends on a lot of factors.
However, the new Radeon 6000 series GPUs might be better for MSFS than the 3000 series Nvidia GPUs. MSFS runs on a modified Forza engine and this engine seems to prefer the new Radeon cards. See the benchmark here. Let’s wait and see.
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I’m not so sure an upgrade is out of order, the next gen Ryzens really do have significant performance increases, especially as matching the new 5000 series to a AMD Big Navi card has memory sharing with the GPU’s VRAM, all 16gig of it. I just bought a 5600X to replace my 3600X and will also be buying a Radeon RX 6800 XT, to replace my nVidia 1660ti, so it will be interesting to see how various combos benchmark on my 1440p monitor. If the Forza 4 engine really does prefer AMD cards, altogether it could make a big difference.
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Any improvements from the 3600x? Im waiting for my 5800x which will be replacing the 3800x i have currently
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Won’t know for sure until Monday, when it is due to arrive. The benchmark that the OP linked to shows the exact same FPS at 1080p for both the 5600X and 5800X on MSFS though. So any results I get should be comparable, depending on our motherboards and RAM. I have an ASRock 570 chipset mobo, with 32 GB of 3200 CS16 RAM for comparison. How this translates to 1440p or 4K remains to be seen.
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I got the 5600x yesterday and have to say that it performs quite well.
Had previously:
Intel i7 4700k
16GB DDR3 1600 Ram and one
Nvidia RTX 2060 Super graphics card
Now:
Ryzen 5 5600x
32GB 3200 Ram
Nvidia RTX 2060 Super
Before that, I was able to play at high settings in Full HD although the graphics card slept at around 50% load, because the cpu simply slowed down the entire system. I barely reach 40 Fps at all.
Not to say the 25-35 FPS with the Flybywire Mod A320 in Cockpit view^^
With the new Ryzen plus faster Ram, I can now use ultra preset at full HD all sliders at 200 except for the render scaling which I still left at 100.
The graphics card works most of the time at 75 to 80% and creates 60FPS continuously except in bad areas like New York etc. where it reaches the limit.
With the Flybywire Airbus Mod, I have between 60 and 45 FPS in the cockpit, depending on the environment, and mostly the full 60fps in the outside view.
Think with a stronger graphics card like a 2080Ti or 3090/80/70 etc. You should also be able to easily create the 60fps continuously on ultra settings in 2k and maybe even 4k and have a little room for improvement.
Whereby you have to consider that for me an Intel I9 10900k Cpu alone would cost around 560 € and the 300 € Ryzen 5600x is moderate in gaming performance, almost on par.
So the new Mainboard + Ram and Cpu together cost me around 600 € just as much as the Intel CPU alone^^
So think its a no brainer the “cheap” upgrade was definitely worth it.
Although you also have to consider that the flight sim is still as good as not optimized and we are still waiting for DX12.
So I think that a lot should be possible in the future, even with the cheapest new Ryzen the 5600x.
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Thanks for that. Really glad you now have such good performance, enjoy! The new Ryzen 5600X is definitely a huge bang for buck with this sim.
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Yes, the 5600x is really worth the money, even outside of the flight simulator.
I hope that the flight sim will also be well optimized for multiple cores over time.
As you can see in the benchmarks, it currently makes no difference whether you have 6, 8 or 12 cores and so on, which is a bit of a shame not to be able to implement this extra performance.
The future will show whether the stronger Ryzen 5000 Cpus can be used to their full potential.
But at the moment I am fully satisfied.
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What is Graphic card?
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The card used on the benchmarks I posted was an nVidia RTX3080 founders edition.
Looking forward to benching the 5950x
Currently, I’m running a 3900x with an RTX 3090 and am severely CPU limited. No matter what settings I play with the 3900x cannot make enough draw calls to the 3090 at 4k.
I’m hoping the 5950x and upcoming updates including dx12 will hopefully free this up to allow the 3090 to do some work.
Also waiting a bit for more results as I’ve seen the 5900x and even the 5800x post better results for MSFS as they have a high base freq.
Tough call, would like the extra cores for creative work, but also want to ensure max single thread performance.
Can somebody explain me.(i am a noob) why ryzen serie 5 is better than a i9 9900k. I read in a few places that the most important thing for msfs is the single threaded speed. A i9 9900k can run at 5 ghz in turbo.mode and has got higher freqiencies than the ryzen 5000 seriea. So why are they better ?
There’s the IPC (Instructions per clock). It’s the amount of work that the CPU can do with every clock cycle.
Let’s say the new Ryzen CPU’s have a 20% better IPC than an certain intel CPU, then a Ryzen CPU at 4,8GHz can do the same amount of instructions than that intel on 5,76GHz.
The Clock speed can only really be used to compare CPU’s within the same generation/architecture, and the same manufacturer (so 5GHz on a 10900K might be faster than 5GHz on a 9900K).
With the 5000 series, AMD is king. There’s really no reason at all to pick intel anymore if you’re shopping for a new system right now… well, maybe if you only play RDR2.
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The simple answer is IPC or Instructions Per Cycle.
Ill try to explain with some definitions and more simple math.
Clock speed, is now many times per second the processor does a cycle of work and this is expressed in GHz. 1 GHz = 1 billion cycles per second.
IPC is how many units of work per cycle a processor does.
Clock Speed x IPC = Max Performance.
Now lets do some simple math.
Say an high end Intel CPU has a Clock Speed of 5 and and an IPC of 5 and a high end AMD CPU has a Clock Speed of 4 and an IPC of 7.
So for intel
5 x 5 = 25
and AMD
4 x 7 = 28
AMD wins.
Now for each new generation of processor there is a whole host of other variables that can effect how fast and efficient a processor runs. But this should answer the basic question of why the latest AMD processors outperform Intel even though they run at a lower clock cycle.
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i would be interested to know how much of an improvement i will make on my rig going from my ryzen 2600 watercooled and overclocked to 3.95ghz to a 5600x , video is an rtx 2060 gaming oc and 16gb 3000 mhz ddr4 , it plays nicely at 4k resolution and high end settings vsync as disabled as it can be and im smooth in my mb339 at approx 45 fps , mainboard is asus x370 prime
i was thinking of going for an rtx3070 but from whats shown above i will see potential gains of 25-30% by going x570 motherboard and a 5600x , this system of mine plays quite happily at 4k so its a surprise to see the gains for flight sim by processor changes which now make more sense than changing the video card and i can leave that for later when the new AMD’s come out which look likely to challenge nvidia for the first time in a long time
its exciting times for gamers with amd coming on so strongly and the availability issues of the new rtx’s are a problem … i buy something i want it physically in my hand that day not join a queue or pay inflated prices
thank you very much for your explanation. very clear
If you’re happy with how your sim currently runs, then why upgrade at all?
If you do really want to upgrade, you can expect on average around 20% performance boost on the CPU side if you upgrade from the 3600 to 5600X.
Having said that; at 4K you’re likely more often limited by your GPU then by your CPU, so don’t expect a 20% boost in framerates in MSFS.
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Ryzen 5950X + RTX 3090 @ 4k Ultra
