Because they dont have it in the real aircraft.
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In my humble opinion:
The up/dn buttons are changing the pitch trim. They are not intended to select speed.
Some autopilots allow speed selection with similar buttons via FLC. But that is different.
I think its perfectly fine the way it is.
Just watched an accident investigation on YouTube about TNFlygirl fatal crash this month. She didn’t know how to use the autopilot in her GA airplane, particularly the trim via the up/dn button. Trimmed the plane in a stall.Very sad but interesting to watch.
I know that but the question is why when many others do.
2nd time asking , no information i can find.
Does anyone know if this aircraft is coming to xbox?
That’s not what the AP manual says. Those buttons will do nose up or down appropriate for the selected mode. So when in IAS that means they adjust the target airspeed just as in FLC. What do you think IAS mode is exactly in this AP. Yes the pitch will change if power is not adjusted but that’s how IAS mode controls the airspeed by adjusting the pitch.
this what I found when comparing IAS and FLC mode:
IAS. Indicated airspeed hold mode tells the autopilot to adjust pitch to hold the current indicated airspeed. In many systems, the pitch up/down control switch will allow target IAS to be changed. For a climb, select the proper speed and set climb power with the throttle. To descend, disengage altitude hold, trim for a descent, pull the power back and as the aircraft reaches the desired speed, engage IAS. Power can then be used to control the descent rate. IAS is particularly useful for making a climb.
FLC. Flight Level Change mode is a “smart” version of IAS mode. Its primary goal is to hold IAS; however, during a climb, the system will also try to hold altitude (up to a limit) while keeping airspeeds within limits. This is particularly useful when making a climb through thin air, where IAS may decrease considerably during the climb, or when turbulence may induce a sink. In the airline world, FLC mode may also be linked to auto-throttle systems to help manage airspeed.
This article below said yes, but no guarantees they did not just make that up. You need to talk the Black Square people themselves for a definitive answer.
As a PC user I’d rather they dedicate resources to an EFB, proper state saving and visible passengers. But unlike Xbox there’s no money in that.
Selfish attitude there , why should xbox not be allowed this aircraft ?
Had an email reply today , it states that theres no timeframe yet , but they are working to bring black square products to xbox.
The pessimist in me says not to pin my hopes on it though . 
It should. I’m just saying some (a few) don’t care about it. My point was to highlight the lack of visible passengers and state saving, which are huge immersion breakers for an otherwise phenomenal aircraft. Perhaps they could release the aircraft for Xbox, make some money and then invest it to upgrading the original product.
Honestly, I don’t care about passengers being visible , i face out the front when flying , not watching the pax behind me, it’s an option on the C414 but i’ve never used it.
I agree that state saving is a must though.
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What we all want is often not aligned so the dev has to make a choice. I personally don’t care for virtual cockpit EFB’s or passengers as they add almost nothing to my experience. The EFB’s actually make it worse for me. In fact I’d rather they all get removed . Point being that some aircraft will be aligned with what you want, some won’t and some will have bits that you may be prepared to compromise on. That’s just the way it is. No one aircraft can ever please everyone.
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I understand user wishes not getting aligned with others’ or with the devs’. I don’t understand users wanting to have features removed. Just because you don’t like EFB’s for whatever obscure reason, I doubt the majority of the users feels this way.
Anyway, state saving and persistent wear are 10x more important than passengers or EFBs. As for passengers, once you’ve flown with a full SWS Kodiak or a CJ4 using WooselMod, you never want to fly an empty aircraft again.
I wasn’t asking for them to be removed, I was making the point that we can’t all have what we want. To help understand why someone would not want a particular feature think about it doing something that goes against how they operate the aircraft. Generally if there are other ways to do things or the feature is an optional one that gives chouc it’s fine but when it forces something on me that I don’t like yeah I’d want that removed. Forced to use the EFB to set fuel levels in the A2A Comanche is one that comes to mind when there’s already a built-in sim tool for that and it doesn’t work.
I agree about Xbox and state saving, but I have no use for EFBs and Passenger zombies. I hope they don’t spend a lot of time on those features right now. Flight model, systems and Sound is the only tweaking it really needs. After that, they can add PAX, Laptops, window shades, animated folding tables and other non essentials .
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Yeah, it’s not ideal. But the A2A Comanche is a different animal completely since it uses external flight model built by A2A instead of Asobo that runs in the background. This may require the EFB for fuel and Payload in that particular plane.
How do one even fly a sophisticated aircraft like the this in xbox? I mean I know it will fly, but are there rudder pedals and actual yokes/throttle quads compatible with it? I honestly don’t know. I can guess the stock Asobo aircraft are not really that detailed and would be fine on xbox but this plane and a few others with fully modeled and functional flight decks seems like a waste without these minimum peripherals.
Been flying msfs since release , nearly at 500 hours , all with controller , you don’t need yoke and pedals to fly and i have key binds set for everything i use regularly.
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Like I said, I know it’s possible to do it. Just seems like your missing half the experience is all.
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