Great! Thank you very much!
Youâre the MVP! Thanks!
Thanks a lot for this
@ dgtlanlg you are a legend! Thank you!
awesome, thank you so much @dgtlanlg !
Could the new version please be uploaded to flightsim.to so that itâll be easier for some people to follow up on any updates? Not all of us are monitoring this discussion for new versions. Thanks!
@dgtlanlg One issue Iâm having with the mod is when the throttle is put to idle, typically close to stall speed, the Prop RPM gets so low(set to full fine) that the engine will not respond to throttle movement.
EDIT: This might just be a turbine quirk, though.
EDIT2: Yeah, probably is just that the throttle goes into the beta(but not reverse) range when brought all the way back. Thus why approach idle settings are a thing in real life. I think.
@TrentKama I havenât had much time to test with the new update, the engine and prop are untouched but itâs possible something has changed. There is no beta but the power curve drops right off at the lower end, with very little response. Further refinement of the engine/flight model is on the list.
@Zeppos Thatâs a fair suggestion, Iâve been waiting to hear back from @MagrainaOne before posting anywhere else. Iâll look into putting it up on flightsim.to/github.
Might be the minimum_on_ground_beta change, thatâs my guess. Again, it might be more realistic with it set at default anyway.
is there a way to adjust the brightness for the displays? Theyâre quite dim now
@TrentKama minimum_on_ground_beta doesnât have an effect in flight as far as Iâm aware, min prop pitch in flight is 8.5
It sounds like you might just be pulling the power lever too far back. Even though there is no beta, the section of the throttle from 0 to around 20% has very little effect on power.
@grizzlybird5461 There is a brightness knob for the avionics behind the yoke.
Amazing mod. Thank you very much. I build myself a home cockpit for the B208 and for me there is an issue with the reversionary mode. I cant popout the pfd and the mfd before i start the flight. Only works when they are active.
When i disable the reversionary mode by deleting the âLogic Sectionâ in the panel.xml and setting it to FALSE it works, without the reversionary of course.
Any Idea how i can fix this?
@dgtlanlg Thank for updating this and sorting the BUS switches
Hereâs a video of me fiddling around with the throttle response. Note the engine gauge in the bottom left hand corner, and the extreme loss of throttle response starting at 2:00 when the airplane is near stall compared to when the aircraft is at higher speeds earlier in the video. Also in-cockpit the lack of torque vs NG setting in the same situation. Prop control is always set full fine.
Note, this is likely accurate as per the POH/AFM you shouldnât bring the throttle below the âIdleâ mark in flight(about 25% throttle). The normal throttle axis âidleâ setting brings it into ground beta, but not reverse. I think the older mod may have spoiled me with the unrealistic throttle response during STOL landings!
On another note with a normal throttle axis, the Caravan idles around 8% power, the King Air 350i and TBM 930 both idle at about 16% power and do not exhibit similar throttle behavior at lower speeds. This is, again, probably due to 0% throttle being in the beta range on the Caravan and 20% throttle being âIDLEâ.
For comparison:
C208: 0% throttle, 8% power
C208: 20% throttle, 16% power
350i: 0% throttle, 16% power
TBM: 0% throttle, 16% power
@TrentKama Thanks for the video, I see what youâre saying now. Iâd be interested to see whatâs actually happening with the engine/prop in that condition, do you know how to turn on dev overlays? I have a feeling it may be the min prop pitch of 8.5 thatâs the issue, in the engines.cfg try changing min_beta to 15. Iâll take a look myself when I get the chance.
Iâm not well versed in dev mode unfortunately. I think youâre right though, I tried changing the min_throttle_limit and gear_reduction_ratio back to Exp232âs values and it didnât effect this scenario. The only remaining differences in the engine.cfg are minimum_on_ground_beta = 8.5 and idle_fuel_flow = 120. Exp232âs mod doesnât present the same issue with those values.
Hereâs your mod(no changes) with overlays in that scenario, hope it shows what youâre looking for.
First of all, thank you to dgtlanlg and everyone whoâs worked on this mod! Its really a few big steps forward for this airframe!
For what itâs worth, Iâve changed the âbeta_minâ to 15 and the âbeta_featherâ field to 89, and this condition no longer happens. It might be trying to simulate different power regimes, but I think without us having the correct aircraft-specific flight controls/hardware, itâs just unrealistic.
Unrelated, I noticed that the label backlighting is noted as being disabled for now - is there a way to reenable this? Or have the systems been modified that prevent it? When flying at night, itâs pretty critical to have (the flood lights would destroy night vision).
Thanks Trent, min_on_ground_beta should have no effect and nothing jumps out at me regarding fuel flow. I still suspect the problem is the min_beta. Appreciate you taking the time to experiment.
@MTpiperpilot Sorry, the backlighting being disabled was just a leftover from messing around with dimming knobs. I ran out of time to test for any knock on effects reenabling it. You can find it in SimObjects\Airplanes\Asobo_208B_GRAND_CARAVAN_EX\model\208B_GRAND_CARAVAN_EX_INTERIOR.xml, look for decals emissive, and remove the <!-- -->
Thanks! Iâll remove those tags and give it a try.