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About the turbulence: anywhere i fly with the bonanza makes the plane dance in the air. Now I don’t have real life experience with this plane but it looks over the top…
Realistic or not, in VR, what I mainly use for VFR flying, I turn down turbulence as much as possible. The moving picture without feeling forces is annoying after some time
I think both sims are ok with turbulence in this point, even they feel a bit different.
What I like, as I wrote, in MSFS2024 is friction of the ground to air mass and the decreasing friction turbulence. You know the wind direction, you see the tree row and you‘ll find the turbulence where you expect it to be. This is well done.
I didn‘t try too much around yet in 2024. What I was missing in 2020 was real severe turbulence that scares you and lead to short moments with insufficient control authority. Even flying through a TCU/CB with a C152 felt comfortable. No idea if this is better now.
For the dancing of the plane the dancing in 2024 I also don’t have a full picture yet. For 2020 I agree that it was definitely dancing too much. Even on the calm, cold, high pressure winter day, where in real life the plane is on rails from takeoff to touchdown, MSFS decides to shake the plane around.
For summer season I have mixed feeling. I think that sometimes people underestimate convection. On the other hand, as said, it annoys me because of decoupling from seeing the movement and feeling the forces, therefore I like to turn that down in the sim. I would say the „Popometer“ (no idea what that is in English) is not working in the sim - It‘s all about the butt feeling
For my personal taste, X-Plane turbulence goes a bit too much only around the yaw axis like only changing wind directions and speeds are causing the turbulence. For me the vertical component is missing a bit and the effect from ground and obstacle is at least not so present. On the other hand, severe turbulence is represented in terms of being challenging in X-Plane.
After being fed up with the countless bugs and locked down career mode missions to come “in a later update,” I walked away from the game about a month ago. Asobo’s implementation of a Career mode is a flawed concept at its core, and the main thing I was truly looking forward to for MSFS 2024. I decided to book a discovery flight at my airport; it was cheaper than the $200 I sunk into the aviator’s edition of MSFS2024. I decided to start working towards my PPL in real life, and ground school (Sporty’s online course) was cheaper than the yoke and rudder pedals I bought for the simulator. A Class 1 FAA physical is only about $150 where I’m at, and mine’s scheduled for next week. Including the money I spent on MSFS 2020 DLC in the (soft) promises that they’d be available in 2024, I could’ve been about 1/3 of my way to my PPL instead of giving Microsoft and Asobo my cash for a flawed product.
I decided to give the game another go yesterday. Loaded the game, clicked on career mode, and instantly received a CTD. Tried it two more times with the same result. Guess I’ll have to wait a bit longer to try playing again. I’m stuck with the purchase, and my money’s already been spent, so all I can do is hope that eventually it’ll be a playable and enjoyable experience.
I watched the YT Vid of VR Flight SimGuy take the Flight test.
In the REAL flight test, the examiner puts the aeroplane into three different stall situations, and then asks you to recover the aeroplane.
Straight Stall. Stall with mid flaps and gear down. Stall with full flaps and gear down.
There is also ‘Banking at 30 degs’, ‘Banking at 45 degs’ and most important, Recovery from Spiral Dive ( Spin Stall ).
None of this except the 30 deg bank was in the MSFS Career Mode test.
I was shocked, as VR Flight Sim Guy didn’t fly proficiently anyway.
Sorry Steve.
PS. The flaps and gear down stalls are done nowhere near the ground.
The examiner checks ‘Altitude lost’.
In the RAF, the student will not progress from the Grob Prefect until they have demonstrated a Chandelle, Inside loop and Roll.
Progressing to the Texan, there are more aerobatics and low flying exercises.
Then the Hawk II.
Then your very own Eurofighter or F-35 with your name on it. The performance envelope of this aeroplane must be fully understood.