I have a question or 2.
1.) Has anyone else noticed that the keybindings for cockpit quick-view left/right are messed up. It seems to first zoom-forward on first activation before going to the quick-view selection on the second activation.
2.) Also, the various cockpit camera views that used to be pre-programmed into the various default aircraft all seem to be missing.
Is all this just me or are others sharing this pain? 
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binding is a total painful… please MS fix that game !
By cockpit camera views, do you mean the instrument views ? There are two dedicated keybindings for those (“Next Instrument View” and “Previous Instrument View”) but they dont seem to do anything.
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Binding is very easy
Yes, that’s what I meant. I guess I’m not alone. That’s the main thing.
So far I only tried those in the Vision Jet … there, for me, they work as expected … and as they did in FS2020. I am using my custom HOTAS bindings (so not the default keyboard bindings).
Long time ago, I did try to document how that view system “flow” looks like (in FS2020). Perhaps some readers might find it useful in this context:
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Thank you.
I think when you get around to trying out some of the other aircraft, you’ll find that the “Next Instrument…” and “Previous Insrument…” don’t do much there, either. The quick view left and quick view right for me in the Vision Jet are kind of a mess, too. They don’t respond accurately at all to my key bindings on the default keyboard, the default Saitek Flight Yoke hat-switch or Saitek 3d Joystick hat-switch. Pretty much a total failure, for me.
So…
I have become quite frustrated by this and about ready to toss in the towel for now and just go back to FS2020 for awhile.
BTW, I looked at your diagram, and I can see where it would be quite useful in FS2020. FS2024 is anyone’s guess.
Please let me know which aircraft you tried, where it does not work … and then I will check if I see the same behaviour.
Regarding the diagram so far the only deviation between FS2024 and FS2020 that I could find is, that in FS2024 we did get a number of additional view contexts (Avatar, Photographer, …). But so far, from what I could see, all the “old” view contexts work in the same way as in FS2020 … “bug to bug” compatible I would even say (e.g. the “Custom Camera” bug is still in FS2024).
I did rebuild my FS2020 HOTAS command bindings in FS2024. Here you can see how that looks like on my side:
And all commands do work as they did in FS2020.
But one more question regarding you problem. How do you enter the “instrument” context?
I use the “Toggle Instrument View 1” command to get into that context in a predictable way. After that “next” and “previous” do as they should. Maybe that is where the difference is on your side.
UPDATE: It turned out that “Previous Pilot Position” actually acts slightly different in FS2024. It no longer will jump from “IFR” to the instruments cam loop.
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I have the missing instrument views problem on all planes, even the Fenix which is obviously much as it was in FS20. Clearly they’ve changed the controls at the sim level in FS24 which means it doesn’t work as it used to. I use previous pilot position to get to the instruments and next/previous instrument from there. It sounds like you have a different key to enter instrument views so I’ll have to try that instead.
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does anyone know why i get a hand icon when i hover over the dials,inibuilds a320 v2,i cant seem to set adjust spped,altitude
thanks
Interesting point: I did not use the “pilot position” chain in years … as I do get along with my 4 custom views (in the small aircraft that I am using).
But you are right … if I “remember” correctly (by looking at my old diagram) … the previous position of the “IFR” pilot position used to be the “Instrument view” chain.
I think I always found that confusing as the “next pilot position” did not bring me back to the “IFR” view (but rather the VFR view) … there was something fishy (inconsistent) about the control flow between those view contexts. Maybe that is a place in which they made changes in FS2024. Hmm.
I will double check in FS2024 … and I will update my diagram some day in the the future.
And I will check the instrument views of other aircraft … just to make sure I did not get lucky with the Vision Jet.
This is not related to the camera views … but rather the cockpit interaction modes.
Try searching for “cockpit interaction”. I hope you will find a proper thread.
Some of that “interaction” stuff is still a little bit of a mystery to me as well. And sadly I never found a good documentation, tutorial or thread which explained that in detail. Most videos just talk about how to switch from “modern” to “legacy” … but not much else.
Yep I have this problem as well. I have left, 45 left, right and 45 right mapped to keys on my joystick. When you first press you get the odd cockpit view you mentioned, and if you press it a 2nd time you get the view you were expecting. Its acting as if 2 commands have been bound to the key. But I have checked, double-checked and triple checked (and then another check for good measure) and I only have one command bound to my key.
So this action is definitely a bug. And the problem relates to the command, as binding the same command to a keyboard key gives the same result, as using it with my joystick.
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Finally! Thank you so much for confirming the issue that I have been experiencing since release. You are the first one that I have found to acknowledge it! What a relief…
I don’t see it listed as a bug though, at the top of this thread. Guess I’ll have to report it to the Zen Desk, unless the moderator picks it up.
And it’s not just those commands that are behaving oddly. I usually set up my preferred cockpit view then save it as a custom camera. This makes it easy to get back once I reload an aircraft. This works on most aircraft in 2024, but not all. On some aircraft when you load to your custom view, you don’t get what you saved, but a different cockpit view entirely. I think this was with the Visionjet.
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Just to quickly reply, I also tried the Visionjet and it too fails my intended keybindings that I carried over directly from FS2020.
You can do both.
I am still flying in 2020 while I work on getting everything set up in 2024 - I expected it would take a while so thats allright.
Just hang in there !
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Hi,
Previously in MSFS 2020, we only had to bind a 4 positions HAT switch like that.
UP/DOWN: NEXT/PREVIOUS PILOT POSITION
LEFT/RIGHT: PREVIOUS/NEXT INSTRUMENT VIEW and also COCKPIT QUICKVIEW LEFT/RIGHT (if needed)
Pressing DOWN multiple times always came to INSTRUMENT VIEW 1 and we could navigate between the instruments views. Pushing UP again brought us back to PILOT POSITION.
In 2024 we now need to explicitly bind a TOGGLE INSTRUMENT VIEW 1.
Is this also true for you? Is there a way to get back to the old method?
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It’s quite annoying because it means another button wasted.