I appreciate the reply, but that’s definitely not it. The CPU can withstand severe stress tests that push temps much higher, engineering applications, 18+ hour flights in MSFS 2020, running multiple games at once etc. It never ever crashes like that. Only in FS24.
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I agree that that’s what it feels like, but it just doesn’t add up imo that this is absolutely exclusive to MSFS2024. There’s no overheating of any component, I checked that. I underclocked both CPU and GPU and monitored power draw, which was fine (I’m aware that millisecond spiked can occur, but the capacitors should handle that).
The systems has been running perfectly stable in MSFS2020 including very long flights, in every other game including titles like Cyberpunk at high settings, RDR2, Starfield etc.
CPU heavy engineering applications, stress tests etc. Fully stable.
I didnt experience any over heating nor any issues in any other games including msfs 2020 but in mfs2024 it kept randomly crashing. Temps would be normal no other sighs of stress. but since I tried it, it worked so a workaround at the moment to the cost of 50mhz clock speed on my GPU.
I am currently experiencing the same problem. I tried yet another complete reinstallation of W10.
Before this the game crashed almost systematically after 10 or 15 minutes.
Now it’s turning off my pc…it’s getting worse and worse.
I know that it may sound absolutely unrelated, but BIOS update helped me on ASUS MB and i9 13gen. Just to be more specific: your post is from Dec 3. Latest update for ASUS BIOS for my mb was from Dec 6
I can fly in MSFS 2024 for maybe 1 hour before the computer freezes up (crashes completely so I have to hold the power button to shut down) and 30 minutes or a bit less if I do not restart the computer first. 2024 has the latest update from Asobo/MS released a couple days ago.
I fly in DCS with the visual settings as high as they go for both single and multi player, and I fly in DCS for hours and nothing happens - no CTD, no computer freezes, etc.
The really frustrating part is that Asobo/MS stated that 32 GB RAM was more than enough RAM pre-release. Well, for the amount of content downloading during the playing of 2024, they should have known to tell people that 64 GB RAM was the preferred amount and that 92 GB RAM was the optimum amount, but continuing to say that 32 GB RAM is still the recommended amount of RAM after releasing it to those of us that bought it pre-release is a royal shame. They owe us something unless they figure out how to play 2024 with the hardware specs they were advertising pre-release.
Royal shame on Asobo and MS.
i7-13700F - 32GB DDR5 RAM - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060Ti 16GB - 2TB NVMe SSD - Windows 11
This is exactly what is happening to me. Until today I could get an hour before the some would crash. As of today, the sim either gets stuck at 6% and requires closing through the task manager or, the sim will load and then CTD on the “free flight” page, and take the whole computer down requiring a hard-reset.
I’m running an i9-12k, 4090 water cooled, 64GB ram, plus have a 3Gbit Fiber internet connection.
I’ve uninstalled and reinstalled the sim
Loaded in “Safe mode”
And tried every “fix” on the internet.
I’ve now wasted more hours in the last month trying to get this sim to actually run, that if I was paid my “call-out rate” I’d have an extra $1000 in my pocket.
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I don’t want anything, I don’t want free aircraft that I’ll never likely fly.
I just want the sim that I paid hard earned money on to work. I want the mouse to work in VR; I want to start the sim without it crashing every 10 minutes. I want aircraft that worked perfectly fine in 2020 to atleast work just as well in 2024.
I don’t think that’s too much to ask is it?
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I agree. All I want is for 2024 to work as they advertised. The only aircraft that I will be flying will be third-party payware that is study level.
I know for a fact that when I launch 2024 and an aircraft has no sound, or gauges are darkened out, or computer screens in a glass cockpit are not in their proper place, that I simply have to restart the computer without even trying to fly.
A well known Youtuber that releases videos about MSFS 2020 and 2024 every week stated this past weekend that the development team’s leader (Jorg Neumann) did a live stream last week, and Jorg mentioned that they will be giving us some free airplanes and airports due to the disastrous launch and continued problems. Their hotfixes [for my machine anyway] have only prolonged the amount of time that it takes for my computer to freeze up.
I would utilize the Nvidia app’s ability to optimize 2024, but the app shows that the recommended Preview Value would only be higher than current graphic’s settings - so I do not think that would help.
Has anyone from the development team given a concrete reason as to why 2024 causes systems to crash?
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If the committed size of physical memory and virtual memory is exceeded, MSFS2024 system will suddenly crash.
There is a 100% probability.
If this happens, it can be prevented by increasing the virtual memory of the HDD/SSD, but it seems like this makes stutters more likely to occur.
Is there any way to manage it so that CTD doesn’t occur, such as by freeing up memory?
I have 64GB of high end DDR5 memory, I don’t see any way this could happen tbh.
Also, I should stress that I’m experiencing total system crashes, not merely CTDs…
As above, me too
FS2024 crashes after 30 ~60 minutes. Sometime the PC crashes (1/10).
Works very well with FS2020.
My Config:
- Intel core i912900K
- ASUS Prime Z690-A
- RAM 64 GB DDR5-6000MHz
- 1TB SSDs (2 NVMEs, 1 SATA) for FS2020 and FS2024 only
- NVIDIA GeGorce RTX 3080 Ti
All Bios/ Windows11/ Drivers are up to date.
Downgraded my DDR5 from 6000Mhz to 5600MHz → A little more stable but FS2024 crashes anyway.
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I also have continual crashes especially in Career mode, I have deleted and reinstalled for each release and shifted the community folder, nothing seems to be predictable, it has a mind of its own. Sometimes it feels better and I can complete several missions before it gives up - perhaps AI, has taken hold and it just gets tired, I have tried reducing graphics setting but I am completely at a loss as to what to do next, I gave i7 13 gen, 64Gb and RTX4700ti all water cooled - it does run much hotter than 2020. I live in hope
I’m convinced it’s a software issue that’s placing unnecessary/unusually large burdens on hardware and causing the symptoms to mimic hardware failures. I am experiencing a similar problem currently (ctd from the main menu) and it started after the update. Pre-update I don’t think I ever experienced a crash. Weirdly, I had almost the exact same experience in msfs2020, where after an update I began having all kinds of trouble with crashes. I thought I had a bad gpu, I was getting artifacts just in the main menu and my gpu usage was pegged at 100%. I tried basically all of the steps you described, with a similar lack of results. I’m not using any add-ons so I knew that wasn’t the problem. Eventually I decided to just wait and see if another update solved the problem, so I played some other games in the meantime (all of which ran fine). Lo and behold, around the time 2024 released another patch came out for 2020 and now it runs perfectly fine. GPU still gets a workout but it’s running well within specs and only heats up to about 40C, and no more ctd’s. I’m not even gonna bother with 2024 until the next update comes out.
System specs- stock speeds, windows 11, monitoring temps with aida64
Asus x570-e board
watercooled ryzen 9 5900x cpu
watercooled red devil 6800xt gpu
corsair rm850x psu
samsung 980 2tb ssd
128gb ram (4 x 32gb)
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It’s just unplayable right now. Have CTD every flight. Sometimes without any reason but mostly when view on the screen changes really fast (sharply jerk mouse to move view point, turning aircraft during taxi, change cameras, flying “drone” camera at high speed, etc) - in that case picture freezing for a moment and then sim CTD - maybe it helps to someone to find a CTD’s cause.
I’m desperate guys…
PC is quite modern and powerful:
AMD Ryzen 7 5800
RTX 4080
16 GB RAM
Windows 11
Latest drivers
Ive been having the exact same random CTD’s, EVERY SINGLE TIME, and the same exception code in Event Viewr of 0xc000005. I have tried whatever i could think of, and it still crashes randomly. Really sick of this and Asobo’s complete lack of helping us with this.
I do think there is some major issue with FS 2020/ 2024 coding software issue , because this happened [not as commonly though], with FS2020, specially with one of the last updates they had to the sim sometime in October 2024 or so. /i would only be able to play FS2020 for 15-20 mins before it crashed.
but with FS2024, it is constant CTD’s, very time i hit’ FLY NOW’.
Same here, but with some peculiarities… my rig theoretically has broad shoulders
- win11 pro
- Kingston FURY Beast DDR5 32GB (2x16GB) 5200MT/s CL40
- Gigabyte Z690 AORUS ELITE AX DDR5
- GIGABYTE GP-AG41TB SSD M.2 1TB
- intel BX8071512900K, Core i9-12900K, 8C+8c/24T, 3.20-5.20GHz
- GYGABYTE geforce RTX 4090
CTDs always happen at about the same time, when I select a flight mission in career mode. Both with the Pimax Crystal Light connected and disconnected.
But now the really mysterious part: the exact same thing happens to me when I launch MSFS24 from another PC, specifically a laptop, this one:
- MSI Titan 18HX A14VIG-087IT,
- intel i9-14900HX,
- Nvidia RTX 4090
- GDDR6 16GB, 2TB SSD PCIe4, DDR5 64GB,
- Win11 Pro
Again a pretty sturdy machine…
At this point I can only think that there is an incompatibility between some component/brand and I have absolutely no idea where to investigate.
in short, a decidedly discouraging scenario, considering that all the drivers, firmware and what the hell else are updated.
Needless to say that the machines with other applications work perfectly, even with “intense” programs like iracing and Assetto CorsaCompetizione in VR.
This Thread has brought me some closure.
Same story as all of you. Random Blue screens into a restart. It got me thinking my 14900k was starting to ■■■■ the bed despite being flawless since I built it in Feb 2024.
Build is similar to all here
14900k
ASUS Z790 Wi-Fi Gaming Pro
64GB RAM
Rog Strix 4090
I had one restart this morning. I was on old Nvidia Drivers and I just updated to the Jan-30-25 driver. Hopefully that might be a change?
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For me, the issues I was experiencing, little stutter/pause then black screens - pc stays on - but not responsive. Had to hard reset each time.
I change hardware from a 13900 to a 14900 and changed my ram - that solved the pc freezing - but the sim still crashed.
Most of the time the event viewer would show 0xc0000005 or a WTF.dll
I am certain its the sim - coupled with Windows 24H2, the Nvidia drivers for DLSS4 and perhaps a bios update needed for 13/14 gen Intel cpu’s.
In the end - I changed out the entire pc with an AMD build. Its been very stable so far - just 1 ctd with the above error yesterday. Restarting the pc allowed me to fly again.