Crash to desktop without error message

Hi everyone, just wanted to say I have not had a CTD since the update in early March. Prior I was getting them almost every flight with AI traffic on. Thanks to the developers for a visually spectacular and very enjoyable game, especially since the CTD issues were resolved (at least for me).

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I think this may apply to amdkmdap error, but I’m getting amdkmdag instead. In any case, enabling TdrLevel didn’t help in the past and doesn’t help now, as value 0 causes Windows to freeze indefinitely when MSFS crashes while value 3 (which is suggested by some) simply recovers back to desktop after the CTD. I’ve seen the exact same 0/3 scenario in another forum, so must be something reproducible.

Some more steps I tried was to:

  1. Disable AMD services “AMD Crash Defender Service” and “AMD External Events Utility”
  2. Disable AMD tasks (from Windows Task Scheduler) “startCN” and “startDVR”, which among other things launch radeonsoftware.exe in the background
  3. Rename C:\Program Files\AMD\CNext\CNext\amdow.exe and AMDRSServ.exe to prevent either of them launching, which are also running in the background and are responsible for Adrenalin, desktop overlays etc

Nothing worked. Eventually I rolled back all changes (TdrLevel included) and confirmed they are all as they were supposed to. Now MSFS crashes in the main menu again with vcruntime140! Which means not even the Xbox Game Bar workaround helps now. Removing all AMD Adrenalin software via DDU and just installing the GPU drivers didn’t help.

I think I’ll just drop this, there’s no point anymore. Going back to Cyberpunk and Valheim (which btw work flawlessly compared to Asobo’s abomination).

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off topic: oh, i do like (watching) her (content) to be honest :wink:

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sorry man, i feel for you but i told you from the beginning !

we’ve been there, we’ve done that and it’s still the game that’s going crazy with its bugs on us.

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Ok for amdkmda p and amdkmda g error

I have just finished installing the driver for the GTX 1080 TI, I am going to launch the flight from LFPG, we will see whether it goes to DONE, even if it would be a good thing, if it was at least halfway flight without CTD.
Assuming I don’t have a CTD, what will we do with it …
Who will correct the problem, AMD, HP, Asobo …

For the moment the LFPG flight to FACT is at 1h30 and still no CTD with the GTX 1080 TI and the HP Reberv G2.

When you know that with the RX 6800 XT and the HP Reberv G2 on the same flight, I always had a CTD after a few minutes, you might start to think that 6800 XT and the HP Reberv G2, would not be the best combination …

EDITION: The HP Reberv G2 goes to sleep after a while despite the change in the registry, and to have prevent the sleep in the device manager. I switch it to VR and it starts again. We are now at 4 hours of flight. And 0 CTD

Just had my first CTD in months, AI is always off but this time something is different as I’ve never seen this before:
Faulting module name: CoherentUIGT.dll
I updated to the latest nVidia drivers yesterday so I’ll try rolling them back and see if that helps

What do you have as a PC configuration. GPU CPU Motherboard, and you play on screen of which definition, or vr of which models. If we had as much information as possible about our configurations, we would find everything there is in common with all these CTDs. On this subject, there is everything, from AMD to Nvidia, screen players and VR players. The only thing in common between us is MSFS.

I’m not even talking about Windows, because I myself have several Windows, some official ones, some more unofficial ones, some customs, but that doesn’t change anything at the CTD.

Ok yes, good idea. Specs are:
i9-10900X 3.7GHz
32GB Ram
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB
On a Gigabyte X299X motherboard
1440p 34" Ultrawide monitor

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I rolled back to 461.92 and completed the flight with no CTD. Not pointing my finger directly at the new driver yet, I’ll try and do more flights and see what happens.

Hi,

I will try to make some other flights to make sure it works all over the planet :grinning:. (Sure hope so).

My specs are;
Radeon Rx 6900 xt 16 Gb
SSD 1 Tb
Ryzen 9 5950 X 16 core
32 gb vram
Reverb G2 (which I think causes a lot of problems alongside with AMD drivers)

Gr Will…

None of any of this worked for me after the last GForce Game Ready Driver Update (465.89). Will not get past the loading screen, just after “Checking For Updates”.

Frustrated.

Four significant CTDS so far

One taxing out in Exeter. One taxing out in Lanvetter.
One when landing into Lydd (UK)

One whilst moving round the world map.

thanks

Mark

Not a pilot.
Returned to flight simulators since MSFS launch - dabbled in flight sim in the past but not to the level I am trying to attain now!
Love all types of flying - from the very functional process driven airliners (currently the A320FBW and the new CRJ (Aerosoft) to the fun, no rules GA flights in my Piper Arrow (Just Flight).

Thrustmaster t.16
Logitech Pedals
Elgato XL Stream Deck

Navigraph (sub)

PC
I9-9900 (3.6GHz)
64GB
Windows 10
RTX2080S

I get a CTD since last update to 1.14.6.0 every time around 10 to 20 minutes into a flight. I am trying to reinstall the sim, but get the same CTDs during download.

Event Viewer:

Faulting application name: FlightSimulator.exe, version: 1.14.6.0, time stamp: 0x60420b1c
Faulting module name: CoherentGTJS.dll, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x5fc6a6c2
Exception code: 0xc0000409
Fault offset: 0x000000000074a594
Faulting process id: 0x1058
Faulting application start time: 0x01d7293ac978d637
Faulting application path: D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\MicrosoftFlightSimulator\FlightSimulator.exe
Faulting module path: D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\MicrosoftFlightSimulator\CoherentGTJS.dll
Report Id: d2774a2f-edf9-41cf-85bb-cbc3ee1e0685
Faulting package full name: 
Faulting package-relative application ID: 

WinDbg:

KEY_VALUES_STRING: 1

Key  : Analysis.CPU.mSec
Value: 55764

Key  : Analysis.DebugAnalysisManager
Value: Create

Key  : Analysis.Elapsed.mSec
Value: 57930

Key  : Analysis.Init.CPU.mSec
Value: 280

Key  : Analysis.Init.Elapsed.mSec
Value: 6430

Key  : Analysis.Memory.CommitPeak.Mb
Value: 160

Key  : FailFast.Name
Value: STACK_COOKIE_CHECK_FAILURE

Key  : FailFast.Type
Value: 2

Key  : Timeline.OS.Boot.DeltaSec
Value: 1166

Key  : Timeline.Process.Start.DeltaSec
Value: 222

Key  : WER.OS.Branch
Value: vb_release

Key  : WER.OS.Timestamp
Value: 2019-12-06T14:06:00Z

Key  : WER.OS.Version
Value: 10.0.19041.1

Key  : WER.Process.Version
Value: 1.14.6.0

NTGLOBALFLAG: 0

PROCESS_BAM_CURRENT_THROTTLED: 0

PROCESS_BAM_PREVIOUS_THROTTLED: 0

APPLICATION_VERIFIER_FLAGS: 0

CONTEXT: (.ecxr)
rax=0000000000000001 rbx=0000000000000000 rcx=0000000000000002
rdx=000001e6fe3105e0 rsi=0000006a65abe4f0 rdi=0000000000000000
rip=00007ff95bf5a594 rsp=0000006a65abd850 rbp=0000006a65abde30
r8=00007ff95c08e5d8 r9=0000018c9b9ae8a0 r10=0000006a65abed40
r11=0000000000000028 r12=00007ff95bf59ef8 r13=0000000000000000
r14=0000006a65abd930 r15=0000006a65abe000
iopl=0 nv up ei pl nz na pe nc
cs=0033 ss=002b ds=002b es=002b fs=0053 gs=002b efl=00000202
CoherentGTJS!Inspector::Protocol::InspectorHelpers::parseEnumValueFromString+0xdc14:
00007ff9`5bf5a594 cd29 int 29h
Resetting default scope

EXCEPTION_RECORD: (.exr -1)
ExceptionAddress: 00007ff95bf5a594 (CoherentGTJS!Inspector::Protocol::InspectorHelpers::parseEnumValueFromString+0x000000000000dc14)
ExceptionCode: c0000409 (Security check failure or stack buffer overrun)
ExceptionFlags: 00000001
NumberParameters: 1
Parameter[0]: 0000000000000002
Subcode: 0x2 FAST_FAIL_STACK_COOKIE_CHECK_FAILURE

PROCESS_NAME: FlightSimulator.exe

ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000409 - The system detected an overrun of a stack-based buffer in this application. This overrun could potentially allow a malicious user to gain control of this application.

EXCEPTION_CODE_STR: c0000409

EXCEPTION_PARAMETER1: 0000000000000002

FAULTING_THREAD: 00006464

STACK_TEXT:
0000006a65abd850 00007ff95bf59f0b : 0000018c9b9ae8a0 0000000000000000 0000006a65abde50 0000006a65abde40 : CoherentGTJS!Inspector::Protocol::InspectorHelpers::parseEnumValueFromString+0xdc14
0000006a65abd890 00007ff9f4331f6f : 00007ff95bf59ef8 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 : CoherentGTJS!Inspector::Protocol::InspectorHelpers::parseEnumValueFromString+0xd58b
0000006a65abd8c0 00007ff9f42e1454 : 0000000000000000 0000006a65abde30 0000006a65abe4f0 0000000000000000 : ntdll!RtlpExecuteHandlerForException+0xf
0000006a65abd8f0 00007ff9f4330a9e : 0000006a65abe090 0000000000000011 0000000000000000 000001e6418d6800 : ntdll!RtlDispatchException+0x244
0000006a65abe000 00007ff957deebc8 : 0000000000000000 000001e641e44350 00004fef16307a46 000001e6ddb43330 : ntdll!KiUserExceptionDispatch+0x2e
0000006a65abe790 00007ff957c7f45c : 0000006a65abe860 000001e641e440a8 0000000000000000 0000000000000001 : CoherentGTCore!WebCore::ContainerNode::parserAppendChild+0x18
0000006a65abe800 00007ff957c5f8aa : 0000006a65abe8e0 0000000000000000 000001e641e44120 00007ff957c7b6a9 : CoherentGTCore!WTF::RefCountedWebCore::DOMGuardedObject::deref+0x37c
0000006a65abe830 00007ff957c73135 : 0000000000000000 000001e6ee9f2f30 0000000000000000 000001e641e44030 : CoherentGTCore!WebCore::parseHTMLNonNegativeInteger+0x2a6a
0000006a65abe8a0 00007ff957c72b0a : 000001e6ee9f2f30 000001e641e44030 000001e6f963c3b0 000001e6fe054d50 : CoherentGTCore!WebCore::parseHTMLNonNegativeInteger+0x162f5
0000006a65abe990 00007ff957c72064 : 000001e6f965ff50 000001e6f965ff50 0000006a00000002 000001e641e440a0 : CoherentGTCore!WebCore::parseHTMLNonNegativeInteger+0x15cca
0000006a65abea10 00007ff957c71c9e : ffff000000000002 0000006a65abec01 00004fef16307746 0108220900000469 : CoherentGTCore!WebCore::parseHTMLNonNegativeInteger+0x15224
0000006a65abea70 00007ff957d80ae1 : 0000000000000000 0000006a65abeb90 0000006a65abebf8 000001e6f965ff50 : CoherentGTCore!WebCore::parseHTMLNonNegativeInteger+0x14e5e
0000006a65abeb10 00007ff957e15c32 : 000001e6fa315ab0 0000000000000da6 000001e6ddb75c30 000001e6ddb75c30 : CoherentGTCore!WebCore::createFragmentFromMarkup+0x3d1
0000006a65abeb70 00007ff9586c6de6 : 000001e6ddb60560 00007ff95b847213 000001e4d8002030 000001e6418cdf60 : CoherentGTCore!WebCore::Element::setInnerHTML+0x32
0000006a65abebc0 00007ff9586c4458 : 0000006a65abf4e0 3fc7d91681000000 0000006a65abf2e8 0000006a65abee10 : CoherentGTCore!WebCore::toJS+0x5f086
0000006a65abec40 000001e67ffcf422 : ffff000000000002 ffff000000000000 0000000000000005 0000006a65abf4e0 : CoherentGTCore!WebCore::toJS+0x5c6f8
0000006a65abec80 ffff000000000002 : ffff000000000000 0000000000000005 0000006a65abf4e0 000001e6ddb75c30 : 0x000001e67ffcf422 0000006a65abec88 ffff000000000000 : 0000000000000005 0000006a65abf4e0 000001e6ddb75c30 000001e4d8002030 : 0xffff000000000002
0000006a65abec90 0000000000000005 : 0000006a65abf4e0 000001e6ddb75c30 000001e4d8002030 0000006a65abee10 : 0xffff000000000000 0000006a65abec98 0000006a65abf4e0 : 000001e6ddb75c30 000001e4d8002030 0000006a65abee10 000001e67ffcd61e : 0x5 0000006a65abeca0 000001e6ddb75c30 : 000001e4d8002030 0000006a65abee10 000001e67ffcd61e 000001e6f96fc0b0 : 0x0000006a65abf4e0
0000006a65abeca8 000001e4d8002030 : 0000006a65abee10 000001e67ffcd61e 000001e6f96fc0b0 000001e67ff6102c : 0x000001e6ddb75c30 0000006a65abecb0 0000006a65abee10 : 000001e67ffcd61e 000001e6f96fc0b0 000001e67ff6102c 0000006a65abf2e8 : 0x000001e4d8002030
0000006a65abecb8 000001e67ffcd61e : 000001e6f96fc0b0 000001e67ff6102c 0000006a65abf2e8 0000000000000000 : 0x0000006a65abee10 0000006a65abecc0 000001e6f96fc0b0 : 000001e67ff6102c 0000006a65abf2e8 0000000000000000 000001e6ddb75c30 : 0x000001e67ffcd61e
0000006a65abecc8 000001e67ff6102c : 0000006a65abf2e8 0000000000000000 000001e6ddb75c30 000001e4d8002030 : 0x000001e6f96fc0b0 0000006a65abecd0 0000006a65abf2e8 : 0000000000000000 000001e6ddb75c30 000001e4d8002030 0000006a65abee10 : 0x000001e67ff6102c
0000006a65abecd8 0000000000000000 : 000001e6ddb75c30 000001e4d8002030 0000006a65abee10 000001e67ffcc56d : 0x0000006a`65abf2e8

SYMBOL_NAME: CoherentGTJS!Inspector::Protocol::InspectorHelpers::parseEnumValueFromString+dc14

MODULE_NAME: CoherentGTJS

IMAGE_NAME: CoherentGTJS.dll

STACK_COMMAND: ~80s ; .cxr ; kb

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: FAIL_FAST_STACK_BUFFER_OVERRUN_STACK_COOKIE_CHECK_FAILURE_MISSING_GSFRAME_c0000409_CoherentGTJS.dll!Inspector::Protocol::InspectorHelpers::parseEnumValueFromString_enum_Inspector::Protocol::Timeline::Instrument_

OS_VERSION: 10.0.19041.1

BUILDLAB_STR: vb_release

OSPLATFORM_TYPE: x64

OSNAME: Windows 10

FAILURE_ID_HASH: {ed7844cd-8935-8f1f-494c-28acdeadc01d}

System:

i9-9900K (3,60GHz)
64GB RAM
GTX1070
Windows 10 20H2

I sincerely apologize for posting the link from a PM! Now that #AmbitiousPilots told me. Using the advice for getting the most out of a Nvidia was just part of how much the affinity mask helped me. But I have an i9 with 10 cores and 20 threads. Turning off cores 0 and 1 stopped all my stutters. I haven’t had a CTD since either. He does mention that this will only be good for those with a high core count CPU.
The last “performance improvements” did nothing for so many people. I didn’t notice any increase in performance but I was already using the Nvidia tweaks and affinity masking.

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Hi Zeppos

I seem to be con-curing with “nealspill” who posted earlier, I switched off the AI traffic (one of the 3 options just before you click Fly). I reduced most vehicle, boats, etc to 20. I also unplugged my new Xbox controller.
and I kid you not I have done 6 or 7 flights with Cat III landings with the new FBW A32NX, only 30min or 40min flights but the unexplainable crashes to desktop while performing minor tasks has halted! thats over 3 days simming now …and no CTD.

The flight were,Santa Barbara to L.A , Tampa to Orlando, Bristol to Heathrow, etc, I accelerated time, I checked web. paused the game etc …and still no CTD

I am as surprised as anyone that it is running OK… just frightened to plug in Xbox controller now.

The only problem I have now
I updated the Nvidea drivers today trying to stop the GPU from going into 100% mode in the menus of the game, which is ridiculous. and when I start the game I am lucky if the GPU goes above 70%?

I cannot explain what is happening.

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I’ve had AI turned off for months now but it hasn’t helped me (not to mention it’s not ideal to have to turn off one of the major features of this sim in order to avoid performance hits or even CTDs).

I too have noticed the fact that GPU goes at almost 95-99% during the loading screens and also in the main menus. This makes absolutely no sense as the GPU doesn’t even have to render anything at that point.

Anyway, like I said I’ve had enough so I’ve begun researching Xplane11 and its absolutely must-have addons, all of which I’ll probably be buying today. For me stability, fidelity, study level aircrafts and accurate flight models are vastly superior to simply great graphics and lighting (because really this is all that MSFS does well and not always). Won’t waste any more time with Asobo.

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Good news (well I’m not sure …) the plane went after 10 hours of flight time, but crashed on landing.

Thanks to everyone who shared their configuration, who can start to prove that it’s not just those who play VR with the HP Reberv G2 with an AMD 5000 or 6000 series GPU who are affected by these * ****** from CTD.

If we add to that, at least in my case that only MSFS causes me CTDs, where are we going to knock on the door so that they do something to resolve these CTDs ???

Why a GTX 1080 TI or GTX 1080 do not cause CTD, when more efficient configuration from AMD or Intel cause CTD ???
There is really something that the developers at Asobo have to explain to us, but ESPECIALLY they have to correct it.

Yes Zeppos, I was close to calling it a day also, it is the optimisation of the game that’s the real problem here, it’s as if Asobo / Microsoft had never heard of, or were aware of modern day Graphic cards or CPU’s made in the last 4 years?
We have multicore CPU’s with NOTHING to do, with such low utilisation of CPU cores to the point of embarrassment from the whole of the PC community.

My current readings in the game, GPU running at 70% and CPU at 17% usage that produces 35-39 FPS …both never go over 65°C in the Air?

I’ve been having CTD’s ever since the last patch to fix the stuttering issue. It can happen a half an hour to an hour in flight. I never had a CTD before this. My nvidia drivers were old so I updated to the latest version but it didn’t help. I have a 3080 rtx graphics card and a i9-10850 cpu. Any others in the same boat?