CTDs are back

HAGS on or off? DX11 or DX12? DLSS?

Sorry, but what is HAGS?
I use:
Anti Aliasing: Nvidia DLSS Super Resolution
Nvidia DLSS Super Resolution: Quality
AMD FidelityFX Sharpening: 120
V-Synk: off
Nvidia reflex low latency: off
DirextX: DX11
Terrain level of detail: 200
Objects level of detail: 200
The rest on Ultra

Ah, OK I don`t have HAGS enabled

HAGS is in your windows gaming graphics settings. Hardware accelerated graphics scheduling. This can contribute to CTDs. I think most people have best luck with HAGS off although some people have more success with it on. I would suggest that you look and if it is on turn it off and if it is off turn it on. Your other settings above are similar to mine and I am relatively CTD-free although I have them occasionally.

Ok, my HAGS is off. I will turn it on and have a try. Crossing my fingers.
BTW, many thanks for the answer.

No success. Changed to HAGS on, started the PC and FS2020. Went to EGLL (stock) and CTD. No success for me.

Very frustrating. I expect that you have seen this post.

In developer mode, check how much Vram your GPU is using.
Just to see if it still gives CTD, turn down your render scale a bit and change setings from “Ultra” to “Low”.
Set “Terrain level of detail” and “Objects level of detail” to lowest.
Bet it won’t look pretty, but it’s just a test.

I put everything to the lowest possible level, in dev mode my vram was 1.3 of 12, selected the stock EGLL and CTD (besides other stock sceneries). With my original settings (all in ultra), I can fly very smooth over NY and KSEA, with at an average of 50FPS and at a very stable frame time. Im afraid Ill damage my rig just because of that sim. I spent 5k U$ building it. Only FS2020 puts me in such a crazy situation. And it is a very nice sim, when it works. But I don`t have time to do more resources. In my opinion, there is something to do with scenery priority that Asobo should fix some how, and in an automatic way. I only have inbuilds NZQN and Paulo Ricardo SBRJ sceneries installed and tree Orbx meshes too, and they work perfect (heavy sceneries, but are fantastic and work very well). By now, I will let things as they are until Asobo solves the problem.
Many thanks for all your help and effort.
Cheers

reduce that to a non-OC value ( 4800 ) and try… if that works, go stepwise higher.

Also check windows event log related to strange warnings, errors.

You can not damage your hardware because of a game. Its simple the current hardware, where we are beta-testers for all of that stuff.

So is it just at Heathrow that you get the CTD?

Hi, I`m already at 4800 and no OC.
A’m going to check the windows events.
Tks

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Heathrow and London Central, beside others that I don’t remember. Always CTD, never could take off from those airports. And the strange thing is that KSEA, JKFK, Tokyo and others, no CTD, and smooth to fly, even with heavy acfts (PMDG 737, AS CRJ, JF BAe146, etc). With that scenario, my bet is that there are something to do with scenery priority.
Tks

Trying to load EGLL

Fault Event Log

Nome do Log: Application
Fonte: Application Error
Data: 30/12/2022 3:38:22 pm
Identificação do Evento:1000
Categoria da Tarefa:Eventos de falha do aplicativo
Nível: Erro
Palavras-chave:
Usuário: GODZILLA\flcbo
Computador: Godzilla
Descrição:
Nome do aplicativo com falha: FlightSimulator.exe, versão: 1.30.7.0, carimbo de data/hora: 0x6391ee36
Nome do módulo com falha: KERNEL32.DLL, versão: 10.0.22621.963, carimbo de data/hora: 0x0bd3258d
Código de exceção: 0xc0000005
Deslocamento da falha: 0x00000000000195d0
ID do processo com falha: 0x0x62F4
Hora de início do aplicativo com falha: 0x0x1D91C7AD308E24D
Caminho do aplicativo com falha: F:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\MicrosoftFlightSimulator\FlightSimulator.exe
Caminho do módulo com falha: C:\Windows\System32\KERNEL32.DLL
ID do Relatório: 81ffb1a7-bd12-41a7-be37-5525b6c42aa6
Nome completo do pacote com falha:
ID do aplicativo relativo ao pacote com falha:
XML de Evento:



1000
0
2
100
0
0x8000000000000000

16555


Application
Godzilla



FlightSimulator.exe
1.30.7.0
6391ee36
KERNEL32.DLL
10.0.22621.963
0bd3258d
c0000005
00000000000195d0
0x62f4
0x1d91c7ad308e24d
F:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\MicrosoftFlightSimulator\FlightSimulator.exe
C:\Windows\System32\KERNEL32.DLL
81ffb1a7-bd12-41a7-be37-5525b6c42aa6





  • so you are in the BETA , here we usually discuss about stable version and for the Beta exist other category.

If you have done the usually system-checks/ cleanups ( e.g. sfc /scannow, etc. ) , also limiting fps , then it can also caused from a mod. That match what you mentioned, that the safe-mode will work fine.

I remember some topics about ORBX , but also GSX… may be do some test-runs without.

But possible is of course also a “Beta” - thing… or we still searching a system issue ( includes all, also e.g. whether a device disconnects randomly, etc. ).

Yea, I tried the Beta to see if it could be less buggy than the normal mode. So, I switched back to the normal mode. But even in safe mode, sometimes, I get CTD too. I always make system-checks/ cleanups with sfc /scannow and dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth. Sometimes, chkdsk /r too. I think my system is relatively OK.
I was in safe mode (and no Beta) and I re installed the scenery KRNT both in MKplace. Switched to the flight and CTD

This was the event:

Falha no bucket 1775523638379744004, tipo 4
Nome do Evento: APPCRASH
Resposta: Não disponível
ID do CAB: 0

Assinatura do problema:
P1: FlightSimulator.exe
P2: 1.29.30.0
P3: 637cad1c
P4: KERNEL32.DLL
P5: 10.0.22621.963
P6: 0bd3258d
P7: 80000003
P8: 00000000000195d9
P9:
P10:

Arquivos anexados:
\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER.4003bceb-aec1-4efe-9481-d7a610882080.tmp.mdmp
\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER.31b75554-1f4a-464a-85a6-1debcfca53f9.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml
\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportQueue\AppCrash_FlightSimulator._8f8212c9d52fc1ddbe1ee94e173733542c8858e3_ffd118a1_cab_ca717871-1f2f-412d-88c9-1d0528021828\WPR_initiated_DiagTrackMiniLogger_OneTrace_User_Logger_20221230_1_EC_0_inject.etl
\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER.d078bba5-acbc-4052-ae16-4614e2bbf82f.tmp.etl
\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportQueue\AppCrash_FlightSimulator._8f8212c9d52fc1ddbe1ee94e173733542c8858e3_ffd118a1_cab_ca717871-1f2f-412d-88c9-1d0528021828\WPR_initiated_DiagTrackMiniLogger_WPR System Collector_inject.etl
\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER.72709466-a279-4d16-b620-b1b4e10fe57f.tmp.etl
\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER.c5142106-9e99-49c1-b14c-1c53a6f00641.tmp.csv
\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER.604267c0-735f-487b-ab10-f7b7a3005d19.tmp.txt
\?\C:\Users\flcbo\AppData\Local\Temp\WER.9279902c-8fc4-4844-a965-56aef9f16c51.tmp.appcompat.txt
\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER.51fdd96f-d312-461b-a04e-c8865db9c60b.tmp.xml

Esses arquivos talvez estejam disponíveis em:
\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive\AppCrash_FlightSimulator._8f8212c9d52fc1ddbe1ee94e173733542c8858e3_ffd118a1_ca717871-1f2f-412d-88c9-1d0528021828

Símbolo da análise:
Verificando novamente se há uma solução: 0
ID do Relatório: 389640aa-a79b-4e13-b332-a246263e1ff5
Status do Relatório: 268435456
Bucket com hash: b4b51629aeec1c61b8a3ed578bef0b04Guid do CAB: 0

hmmm… does it then happen allways at same geo-location ?

Yes, always. And if I go to Paulo Ricardo’s scenery SBRJ or inibuilds NZQN (for exemple), no problem. Both are heavy sceneries and with all in ultra I get an average of 50 FPS

okay… so we come closer a bit :slight_smile:

We just need to find out whether CTD comes from a add-on, a map-issue or just another reason.

For some add-ons there are existing post/topics, e.g. like this one for KRNT: SU10 Beta CTD with DX12 - #3 by MakAttack ( Drzew… add-on ). There are also some other reports about CTD seemingly for a specific geo-location where users mention they have no add-ons installed ( area near Linz ).

Only idea is: if that happens allways at same geo-location , then search for existing topics and raise new topic in case nothing exist ( possible mention exact geo-location so that we can try to reproduce ). But allways mention whether and which mods you have installed in that region, so that users can compare.

Don’t take this the wrong way, as I work in IT and can’t help myself. But I think your issue could be caused by your slightly overlocked 6000GHz memory. :wink:

I assume one of the things you tried was to remove all addons, and fly only stock aircraft. What is the nature of your CTD’s? Entirely random, only when on short final, only at certain locations etc.

For the record I use XMP profiles, well “an” XMP profile, on my machine, and CTD’s are rare for me now. Over the last few years it has been a tiresome process working out what combination of things to avoid to reduce CTD’s.

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I keep getting CTD’s near the middle east. The persian gulf to be specific. I have tried flying from Dubai to UKOO and it seems that I come back to a CTD just East of the Persian Gulf. I uninstalled the Kuwait city/airport addon and will see if this helps…

EDIT: Nope. CTD around the waypoints ROTAL and KASOL.
I was flying from Dubai using the DAVM4G SID and the DAVMO transition.

Here was my flight plan that I have tried several times.
OMDB DAVM4G DAVMO M318 GABKO UN440 RADEB M317 ROTAL UP574 SYZ W3 REXEB UT430 DASIS UL746 CRM UM860 KUGOS M860 BOMKI M854 TARKA TARK1Z UKOO

This is with the PMDG 737-700

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