Discussion + Poll: Sim Update IV (1.16.2.0)

Read the Release Notes here.

Please use this thread to discuss the latest update, version 1.16.2.0. Other topics created to discuss this thread may be merged here.

Poll Questions

Feel free to answer these poll questions after you download and experience the new update.

Did you experience any CTDs during this download process? If yes, please respond to this post and let us know more details.
  • Yes
  • No

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Did you remove all your mods from the community folder?
  • Yes
  • No
  • Oops, I forgot. Will do that now and try again.

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On a scale of 1-10, 10 being smoothest, how is your performance/stability in this update? Please vote once you have played the updated sim for at least an hour.
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Is your performance/stability worse, the same, or better than the recent hotfix update? Please vote once you have played the updated sim for at least an hour.
  • Worse
  • The same
  • Better

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On a scale of 1-10, 10 being the best, how would you globally rate this update (This question will be used as a reference between each update)
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Frequently Asked Questions

Where can I find out about Known Issues

Click the link titled “Known Issues” in the hamburger menu, which is opened by clicking the button next to your profile picture on the navbar.

This page will be updated within a few days to reflect the latest patch.

How do I see my current version number?

Press Alt+Enter to change the program from full screen to windowed mode. The version number is at the top title bar of the window. Additionally, the version number is displayed by holding down Alt+Tab (above the window icon) or available in-game by clicking on your gamer tag profile icon from the top right of the main screen. The version name is displayed in the dialogue box under your gamer tag

Do I need to do anything with add-ons in the community folder?

We highly recommended that you move the content from your community folder to a temporary location on your hard drive before applying the patch and replacing after testing the new version.

What is the file size of the update?

Note the size of the update depends on the version of the game you have purchased. Don’t be alarmed if the update is smaller or larger Launcher update size: 1.05 GB. In-sim content update: 6.83GiB.

Why were certain bugs or issues not included in the patch notes?

The patch notes don’t mention everything that has been updated. If you are still experiencing an issue then file a ticket on Zendesk , using the “Submit a Request” option on the top menu bar. Include as much detail as possible, including the version of the game you are running. Remember the forums are not the official platform for bug tracking.

This patch is part of an ongoing patch release, so if your issue isn’t patched this time it does not mean it won’t ever get fixed! Check out the #self-service:bugs-issues category to see if others are reporting the same issues (where you can also vote if you have the same issue)

The Known Issues page will be updated within a few days to reflect the updated bugs.

How do I see my FPS?

Windows 10 has a built-in FPS counter in the Xbox Game Bar app. To use the FPS counter over your game, there are a few one-time steps you might need to take.

Important! You’ll need Xbox Game Bar version 3.34.11002.0 or later to use the FPS counter.

  1. Press Windows logo key Win + G to open Game Bar, then select Widget menu > Performance.
  2. Choose the FPS tab, then press Request access.
  3. Follow the prompts, then restart your PC for the changes to take effect.
    When you launch a game, the FPS counter will be ready and waiting in Xbox Game Bar.

What should I do if the update doesn’t start automatically?

  1. Check Windows 10 for updates. If any, restart your PC
  2. Manually check MS Store for Updates
  3. Then update MSFS

If this still doesn’t work, the best course of action is to log out, restart your computer, and log back in.

What should I do if the update seems to stall or stop downloading?

The first thing to try is closing down MSFS and restarting it. The downloading should start again once MSFS is restarted. If there are problems with a particular file downloading repeatedly (on a loop) then exit MSFS and browse to the download location where the file is downloading to using windows explorer. Delete the offending file (if it is listed) or the latest downloaded file in that folder and then restart MSFS. The patch should continue as normal. (Note only delete files do not delete folders!)

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This information seems to be a leftover from World Update 4.

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The most important update so far, Flightmodels improved significantly!
Good Job ASOBO :clap:t3:

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It’s a step in the right direction… However, the USR waypoint still hasn’t been addressed. It’s one of the biggest immersion killers for IFR.

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… sure, even we have to wait for WT CJ4, Salty 747 and B78XH updates :wink:

Update: CJ4 and even the G1000 has been updated a few minutes ago. Thanks to the WT Developers

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Thank you, I’ll update this section in few minutes !

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Doesn’t look good for live weather still being woeful sadly, oh well, another wait for fruitless hope for a feature that is totally inadequate to be fixed so it works as advertised. Getting extremely tired of this now.

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sadly the promised optimization for glass cockpits and better performance (Martial mentioned it in the last Q&A) is not even mentioned or documented in the release notes, there is not any change, stutters and unstable performance are the main problem of the sim and its not getting any better.

LA Area is still a stutter fest and on final approach and landing the stutters is just unreal.

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already drawing conclusions whilst not even tried the update yet?

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What’s the latest on the long threads about CTDs without errors, caused by GPU driver timeouts and vcruntime140 crashes? I can’t see any mention of these in SU4. Just fixes for very specific stability issues. So much for fixing CTDs “ASAP” as per the backlog list we’re seeing since March?

ps: most people won’t care about the above obviously, but those who suffer from chronic CTDs for no obvious reason and no known workaround helps, well they don’t care about any other improvements no matter how welcome they are. Just fix the CTDs.

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“ We performed some optimization for the initial full download of the title so the base game is only 83GB instead of +170GB”

Does the size of the game itself too becomes smaller after the update?

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The install size is unaffected I heard.

No, it’s not drawing conclusions, it’s called experience.

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I’d be delighted to be wrong.

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No, the install size remains the same. They performed some optimisation so that you have to download only the latest version, and not the launch build with every newer update on top.

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Confirmation of the size yet?

WT is already up to date as to their discord channel

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Thanks!

I suppose the download sizes of future patches will be smaller too then.

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1,05GB in Microsoft Store and 5,75GB in game for me. Maybe later in Marketplace some more updates… not yet there