Discussion + Poll: World Update VI (1.19.8.0)

The XBox companion app was the OLD requirement. XBox has replaced it with the XBox App for Win 10.
This occurred between MSFS updates. Underlines the importance of keeping ALL the applications on your computer up to date. I had done the update to the XBox app a week before WU6 dropped and so the process was seamless. For those that had not seen the notifications from XBox gaming about the new app there was no way for them to know that the app was required to access your XBox Games (MSFS is one) updates.

Another example of those that know assuming everyone knows. I was surprised at the confusion and anger because I was one of those that knew. I am sure that everyone at MS and Asobo also knew and just assumed that everyone with an XBox account would have already done the upgrade. Surprise!

A corporation as big as Microsoft with as many divisions as they have, should have known that cross division communication is always terrible. I am sure Asobo knew that the app was a requirement, but equally sure that they expected that the XBox division would have pushed the update to the Store as an automatic update. Right hand and left hand attached to different people.

So the XBox Services login is now handled by the new app. Companion is no longer required.

I knew about it, I just never bothered to “upgrade” till I needed to. :slight_smile:

The companion app tells you every time you open it, though the only time I opened it was to perform a log out/log in of the XBox network if I had an issue. That hasn’t happened in some months now.

I find it mind numbing that even today (literally “today”, not “in this day and age”, I mean Wednesday, “today”) I logged into the forum, only to be greeted by ANOTHER new thread started by someone that could not find the WU6 update. We are 9 days? now since the update was released. I have lost count of the number of threads started, with various titles but, all saying, “the update doesn’t show up in the store!”, or “The sim says I need to update and sends me to the store but it says I am good to go.”

“There is always some poor ###### that doesn’t get the word.”, has gone on long enough.

hi,

I have problemswith xbox login. Xbox told me that there aré encountered issues during login… hrrghhhh … somebody else problems like this?

I have a german version …

It´s a shame… I paid 119 € for a game and can´t play due to that issue during login… OMG …

might be a serverproblem…

If it were free you still wouldn’t be able to log in.

If anyone hasn’t, I recommend “watching” the news, and announcements group. You’ll be notified of things like this.

Nice. I‘m now doing a full Installation because I was looping in the press any key screen and did a complete de-installation because of that. :smirk:

Q: Where is that ? What happens with that bridge when you switch off these “raymarched reflections” ?

It’s in Vienna, following the Danube North, Donaustadt Bridge just north of the A23.

Raymarched reflections is the new name for what was just reflections before. Not sure what it looks like without reflections, pretty odd probably. You’ll still have the PG mess contrasting with the water.

Old bug - older than WU4 :wink:

There was this back in Februari


But that was mostly fixed and happened where the blue sky bled through at the edges of objects and around the plane. This new blue outline seems to be from the blue water bleeding through reflections and or shadows.

Fix one thing, crops back up somewhere else.

nah, i tried it from different airstrips. I thought the same, so I went to a different local. i have had this before. The next day and everything is fine. Even crashed in “safe mode” lol

Edit: So today I did the same initial flight, and no problems, completed perfectly. No rhyme or reason to these CTDs :smiley:

I don’t know that. I see reflections improved since WU-6, they are more solid that before. And better over water. Not sure about PG though..

Thx, checked it out.

I haven’t seen bridges this bad since WU-2. Vienna is a PG mess over there anyway.. below is ultra, overview of the issues over there, it could use a remake imho.. or some nice third party addin. This could be much better.

don’t get too close

I haven’t seen this in Germany yet. Not even in London. Some bridges in Amsterdam.. come near..

Can’t confirm these blue lines.. do you use a LOD override in useropt.cfg ? My settings are 2.0000

time to ditch photogrammetry for a team of 3D artists. Can utilise the photogrammetry data and build the 3D models from that. :smiley:

Handcraft is aways a solution, but you’ll need that on your harddisk. Too much will not be scalable, also performance would become an issue with completely handcrafted cities.

Better alignment of photography would do wonders ! In some cities, graphics levels don’t seem to make any difference, PG can’t really be improved. Technically:, in SDK terms: a lot of photogrammetry in MSFS in these cities seems to have wong U/V texture coordinates. Tilted windows, cut off roofs.. Also, any attempt to automatic bridges, automatic cranes and other thin structure fails. Building detail and performance are a tradeoff, but bridges.. that can’t be done with PG, bridges need to be object library, or handcrafted.. You can’t generate thin structures from photographs.. example, Vienna, automatic radio tower..

From far away you don’t notice these things, of course. At 1500-2000 feet altitude it looks fine.

having it on my hard disk is a perfectly fine trade-off for a nicely hand crafted well detailed city. With the low cost of SSD drives now it would be cost effective. It doesnt have to be every city, just feature cities like they have done already. Rather than have a post apocalyptic look to these cities.

I checked again, thinking it might have to do with the weather preset. Yet it looks like it has something to do with TAA. When I move the camera toward the bridge, no outline. When I back up the camera or slowly down, the blue outline appears. Go towards the bridge again and it gets ‘filled’ in.

TAA is getting its information from the previous frame but doesn’t seem to handle edge cases correctly where reflections are.

same CTD’s here and many more issues

Can’t complete the poll because I haven’t had the courage yet to try a flight after the update. Probably should give it a go tonight.

Also, has the patch already been released?

I switched off photogrammetry months ago, my fps is higher and i have no wrecked objects or buildings. Photogrammetry is a mess. :disappointed:

I did as you suggested. I deleted the msfs from the Xbox and now I’m in the process of reinstalling msfs . Despite it now saying the German Austrian add one aren’t installed I’m seeing the 3D photogrammetry. Go figure that. In any case I’m waiting for 20gig of scenery and other bits and bibs to download and install.