Fenix A320 + Prosim A320 = NO Hardware and Remote Panels

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After a few months since Fenix A320 dropped and we found out that is running on ProSim
Most people started to realize that there are pros and cons against this amazing aircraft.

While it offer probably the best study level aircraft to MSFS simmers we realized that because of their deal with ProSim they will probably never offer cockpit builders the chance to use their gear on Fenix.
Nothing so far besides the EFB running on ipad/browser.

On one side i understand that to have the ProSim running and giving us the best of it without the need to have a $1500 add-on running and of course most of us dont have skalarki gear for example.

I agree that ProSim focus on another market while Fenix is totally focused on home simmers that do not have $50.000+ to spend on cockpit builds and just want to have fun with it on MSFS.

after reading this:

"Fenix A320 Support - important update!
*After having received plenty of requests and questions regarding our hardware compatibility with this brilliant simulation, I worked hard trying to convince Fenix developers to support us. *
Unfortunately, after several attempts, it is clear that Fenix A320 will not support SKALARKI hardware or any other hardware as well. This add-on is intended to be purely a desktop simulator. We, at SKALARKI electronics Ltd, fully respect this decision and we will not be working on any alternative interface. So please, do not ask us to do it. However, I will insist and encourage all our customers and potential users to write directly to the Fenix devs and try to convince them. We will do interface only if Fenix agrees and allows us to do it.

I am sorry for passing such bad news. "

I realized that Fenix should have worked out a deal that at least enable them to offer stuff like
Remote MCDU / Saitek Panel support for example.

While I agree with ProSim posistion, since giving Fenix the rights to use their system and both aiming different markets Home Cockpit Builders vs MSFS more casual simmers.

I think they are starting to get some people really upset. FBW A320 will probably earn a lot of people who wants to use their expensive gear and also want to use things like remote MCDU, Saitek add-ons that in my opinion is not ProSim market, much more Casual simmers who invest on cheaper gear and add-ons to have more immersion.

Things like FERGO Virtual MDCU / Simple FCU / Saitek Panels are impossible for anyone to use with Fenix. Those ADD-ONS are a must for anyone to have more immmersion and right now impossible.

FBW A320 not just supports them but will just get better with time for people who wants to use their gear with this amazing planea and at the same time Fenix will be an airplane that can only be used with keyboard + mouse.

If they do not work something out with the guys from ProSim, what do you guys think of the future of Fenix A320? IÂŽm reading more and more on forums that so many people are upset that they cant even use Air Manager to have a remote MCDU.

Just looking to build a topic to hear people opinions and if they are ok with that or think Fenix must change the way that deal was made to start to support some more stuff for us simmers.

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No Hardware for Fenix A320 in any level, is just too much for such an amazing plane.
People will start to move on?

They need urgently to work out a deal that enable us to use simple Panels, Remote MCDU and stuff like that. Otherwise FBW A320 will reign.

is something so nice, but already said that will not support Fenix because of their deal
Fergo Remote MCDU the same thing


Developers will just move on as well and support planes that care.

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Oh too bad, I found a cheap home cockpit for 131.000€ a few days ago.
Looks like the dream is over now.

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I won’t buy the Fenix until it has remote MCDU capability, whether that’s native like the FBW A320 has or through AviaCDU or another dev.

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i heard that from a lot of people. Just ridiculous we cant have a remote MCDU for a study level of this class. They made that deal but didnt realize that not supporting anything besides remote EFB would be a shot in the dark with the community.

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Those people will go for the ProSim A320.

But people with Saitek Panels , wanting to have a remote MCDU on ipad or even who wants to get 1 or 2 gears to use with it, just canÂŽt. Mouse + Keyboard only is a little too much of a limitation.

They need urgently to rework that deal and starting supporting more stuff. At least remote/pop up windows etc


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ProSim does not really seem to have any hardware problems or limitations for cockpit builders :wink:

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I think you see my point here?

Thats ProSim market. Not Fenix.
Things like Remote MCDU and supporting Saitek Panel for example are not that market.

The point here is to hear what people who invested on this plane thinks about that and how that is going to interfere how they play this plane while FBW A320 will just gets better and support more stuff for more immersion.

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That’s the reason why I didn’t bought the Fenix and move on with the FBW. No external MCDU, no external FCU/EFIS (Displays) is a no Go for me.

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Yep, thats what im reading on all forums around. People ■■■■■■ that even those little options will not be available anytime soon. No Remote MCDU is really upseting.

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replies like that, is really upseting :confused:

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Same here. I actually bought the Fenix on day one but it’s just sitting in my hangar ever since, I simply can’t enjoy an airliner where I’m limited to the in-sim MCDU

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exaclty whats happening here as well.

Using PMDG much more nowadays because of those Fenix limitations.

They need to at least support external MCDU hardware or remote MCDU urgently.

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Indeed, I’m also enjoying the 737 (very much) instead

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Meanwhile l am using FENIX A320 AAO Scripts & StreamDeck XL Profile » Microsoft Flight Simulator

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i found a good way to use an external MCDU with spacedesk, air manager and pop out window, just trying to make it work here.

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thin,
I wanted to buy FĂ©nix after the holidays to make myself an airbus cockpit. Well I would wait to see if this “closed” policy will change in the future. I will stay on the FlybyWire for now.

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thats what going to happen with people like you and me that wants more immersion.
Not being able to use an external MCDU hardware or even a remote MCDU is a huge deal braker

something like this would be enough

or this

https://cockpit-master.com/index.php?id=3390

ProSim users have a complete hardware setup, nothing even close that most of us will ever have :joy:
dont think it will ever mess with ProSim market at all, just completely different worlds

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Yeah I considered this as well but this isn’t an option for me, popping out windows in MFSF kills the FPS on my system

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That’s really disappointing. Not all Skalarki hardware is intended for full cockpit setups being run by expensive prosim software. I have the desktop FCU and MCDU that are frustratingly sitting idle because of this.

I get Prosim wanting to protect their home cockpit business but desktop simmers with a few hardware items are absolutely not the same market as full cockpit builders and never will be.

Hopefully Fenix and prosim can come to a much more reasonable solution/position.

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The solution would be the same as for the FSLabs A320: We would pay an amount of licence fee, let’s say e.g. 50 bucks for the Skalarki FCU integration, and Pro Sim would allow Fenix to be open to hardware panels. As usual, it’s only a question of money


What is sad in my opinion, that Fenix has not forseen this, that there is a huge amount of enthusiasts having all kinds of hardware - but not professional home cockpit builders, just normal enthusiasts, who would never pay thounsand €/$ for hardware, instead better to pay for a real CPL/ATPL licence - and that they are so badly served with this hardware incompatibility
It’s really a shame, it’s like a crippled good piece of software, but the emphasis is on crippled.

But I think there is some hope, if some guy of Fenix, a really intelligent man or woman, could make a fair deal with Pro Sim for an addon licence fee, the best would be a flatrate licence, let’s say 69 bucks - what is more than the Fenix A320 by itself - to enable all possible hardware to connect to this aircraft. And if Pro Sim would still not allow this, it would be a very very bad publicity, as this will be a proof that they only look for money


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