Finally.....Solved CTD issues... for those of us with < 32 GB ram

It most certainly works for me, exactly as you say.

I thought I would run a test to verify this.
I have, as you probably know, a 16 gig ram setup, and had previously set my system to manual values.

If I return my manual settings to “system managed”, in most situations, I can’t even start the sim, CTD.

When I am able, it doesn’t last too long, and will only boot up with default non-complex planes and default scenery.
Constant CTD with system managed, no CTD’s at all without.

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HI.
i9-9900K, GTX 1660ti, 32GB Memory 3400Mhz,
Samsung 970 EVO Plus M.2 NVMe SSD 500GB (C:\ = Win 10
@100GB, D:\ = FS2020 @ 400GB)

Additional 32 GB Memory 3600 Mhz added.

I really like it and was worth every penny.

In general, everything works quicker. Not faster. Just quicker responding it seems like.

Didn’t buy for general. Bought for FS2020.

For FS2020, I am amazed at the difference since the posts did not indicate there was much if any.

FS2020

  1. Mouse - Any mouse click or controller input results in a very fast
    response on the screen.
  2. Colors - There are additional colors or brighter colors on the
    screen and the cockpit seems easier to see
  3. Scenery - There is additional scenery and additional detail in the
    scenery. It looks more colorful. Hard to describe.
  4. Page file - None configured but both SSDs set to “Manage” by
    Windows.
  5. Memory Used - Was around 17GB before. Increased to 26GB
  6. CPU usage increased with scenery. Was previously always in the mid 20% while flying. Two pictures below, one was 48% and other was 34%.
  7. GPU usage seems to reduce from a previously always 100% to
    93% sometimes.
  8. Flying the Citation CJ4, external view, watching it on level flight,
    it seemed to float. Just a little slight bounce/nudge/wing dip
    slightly. I thought when I noticed it, maybe that is the air currents
    hitting it.
    I have spent many hours before behind it and it seemed fixed. As
    in, it would go up, down, roll left or right but did not show any
    results from air currents that I noticed.

The additional graphics and more vivid graphics and additional detail make this investment justifiable to me. I don’t know why. Same graphics card and CPU.

Two screenshots:
One taking off the runway at JFK, New York

One flying over New York City

And yes, flight is smooth even with 15 to 25 FPS.
I am pleased.

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it just no longer use the pagefile :wink:

Don’t forget that you can now, 64gig RAM, set your pagefile to e.g. 1Min/4Max. Otherwise windows will possible reserve 9Gig which you will never need.

MichaMMA,

I was just discussing with CasualClick.

What size page file should I use?[quote=“CasualClick, post:20, topic:250773”]
The use of a page file has it’s advantages, even if you’re operating in a DRAM (System RAM) rich environment. There are different types of read/write operations, temporary caching, that page files on disk (whether platter or SSD) can perform that RAM cannot or should not.
[/quote]

That is interesting to know. I did not know it.

It’s hard to see how any access via disk/SSD would be faster than memory.

I have 64 GB of memory. Windows is set to manage Virtual Memory (page files) on both the C:\ Win 10 and D:\ FS2020 NVMe SSD drives.

Win 10 has currently 18.944 GB allocated for both SSDs.

  • (min of 16 MB and recommended of 9077 MB (9.077 GB)

This seems okay (FS2020 flies okay).

What size page file should I set?

RAM is generally smaller in size than available disk space. Hence, it makes sense to move out data that’s resident in RAM to disk where appropriate. For example, you’re working on Application A for a long time, while Application B (say a web browser) remains open in the background. Windows will move the resident files in RAM associated with the browser session to disk because it detects it’s been an idle process (but open) for a while. That frees up RAM for active applications and other tasks.

Generally, you can’t go wrong for letting Windows manage the page file sizes on the different detected partitions/disks.

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Hi @MSFSRonS ,

yes… therefore NEVER disable pagefile completely :slight_smile:

I set it, as mentioned to 1Gig Min and 4Gig Max by 64 Gig RAM.

Windows itself never auto-increase the 1GiG. This is also what I expected.
Windows use some 100MB of these pagefile, but no need to use more by 64Gig RAM.

As you can see my settings :slight_smile:

image

And because of these, there are no big read/write operations.

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Thanks for the clarification.

I’ll manually change mine per your info. 1G to 4G

I don’t want to waste 14 GB allocated to a page file
if it doesn’t need it.

I wonder what else FS2020 will do with that 14 GB that it can use now.

I’m excited to see.

Edit - 18GB to 14 GB

hold data data data :grin:

If you see 18Gig used, the commited memory is about 30…

I posted here an example screenshot.

This was an incorrect statement that I made.
Latter and after several posts, I realized it.
But I could not remember where I had gotten it from.

Found it.

Now, I am confused.
Also, sorry but I can’t read your language in the screenshot.

My screenshot of my Virtual Memory. Per Windows 10 managed.
Luckily, I was just getting ready to change it.

And I have no idea what “Recommended” is and “Currently allocated” is twice as much?

Hi Guys,

I have one SSD which windows is installed on, and a larger SSD which MSFS is installed on and also a normal HDD with other games on.

Should I increase the page file on both my SSD or just the one which MSFS is installed on? I will not put a page file on my HDD. Any ideas? I have 16 GB ram. Thanks!

I have 16 gig as well.
I only have the sim on my SSD.
It’s a windows change, it doesn’t need to be put with MSFS.
I would probably put it where you have the most room.

Hi,

So do I just windows system manage the other SSD? Or do I completely remove any page file on that also?

You only need one file.
Set your own limits, normally your ram amount x 1.5 for the minimum, and x 4 for the max.
Note that windows often uses MB not GB so make sure you have the right value.

Are you familiar with changing these?

Yes I know how to change thanks, my issue is I want the page file set on the SSD with MSFS installed on- so I have set the min as 20GB and max 25GB. However, what do I put on the SSD my OS installed on? System managed or no page file? If I put no page file then a warning box pops up saying that if a windows system error occurs it may not be able to record the problem.

For others:
Right click “Start”
Click “System”
Click “Advanced systems settings”
Click Performance “Settings”
Click “Advanced”
Click Virtual Memory “Change”

Now, here is my screen:

Note. I have 64GB of memory.

I have been discussing this issue with:

And consider him our expert. See our above Posts.

I set mine to min=1024 and max=4096 as per his advice.

I have one Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe M.2 500GB.
-(2nd M.2 is 1TB but not considered with this discussion. F:, G:, H:.)
It has two drives on it.
C:\ has Win 10 & MS Office (approx 100GB).
D:\ has FS2020 on it (remaining 400 GB).

Look at my screenshot.

The blue highlighted line is the C: drive.
Below the box lists C: drive.
Next line is “Space Available”. That is the unused storage on my C: drive (7480 MB or 7.480 GB).
If I select the D: drive, "Space Available on it is
212099 MB or 212.099 GB.

The whole point of this is ******* And this is very important *******.
The last 4 lines on my screenshot:

Total paging file size for all drives
Minimum allowed: 16 MB
Recommended: 4981 MB
Currently allocated: 2048 MB

Now look at what I custom defined to Windows 10.

Windows took my two 1024 minimums and combined them for “Currently allocated”.
Don’t know what it did with my two 4096 maximums.
But recommends 4981 MB.
Minimum allowed = 16 MB?

Look at the title. ****** Total paging file size for all drives ********

This says file and all drives not files.

Is there only one paging file for Windows 10?

I hope MichaMMA can help us understand.

And note: Don’t use my min & max numbers. They are for 64GB.

Random examples from Posts above:

ISeek4Edmund says’ for his 32GB his 16GB of Virtual Memory ended his CTD after 9 hours of flight.

The Sevenflyer says:

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You only need one file.
If you want to split that file up and make two, that is fine.
It is a file where operations that need to run in ram are put when the ram gets full with other duties.
It really doesn’t matter how many files you use, it is the space and the speed of the drive that the file is on that matters.

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yes :slight_smile:

@MSFSRonS … you can set at your drive D: “No paging file”.

We have these one pagefile at C: only for the fallback case.

Don’t think about these pagefile settings / windows recommendations to much. 1G/4G is a good setting for 64Gig RAM. I have this since years :slight_smile:
( windows combine all pagefiles as one virtual memory pool )

More important is: your C: drive have only 7.5 free space !!

This is very low and a bit dangerous and you should try to move some file from C:

Windows need space for temp file, possible increasment pagefile, windows update, and other things… near 100% full is not good :slight_smile:

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Thanks…

Where did you get that ■■■■■■■■ answer from?