FlyByWire Simulations | A380X alpha | Discussion

Perhaps your controller sensitivity is set too high / not set linear (ie. thus over-rotating the nosegear steering to full L/R deflection) ?

You should have flap 1 out by 200kts. You need to anticipate the aircraft behaviour, if you see the minimum speed tape rising, you are too slow for a clean config and need to have the flaps out and ready before the descent starts and also be ready to deploy spoilers to speed up the descent to meet the altitude restrictions.

Having flown into LHR on the 380 multiple times this year, more often than not, we do have at least flap 1 out and spoilers in use during the last descent to make the final approach fix.

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Thank you, that’s interesting to know. and Approach phase enabled well ahead of time too?

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I generally leave the approach phase to be automatically activated.

I do however control speed manually in anticipation that the autopilot is unlikely to make the restrictions without intervention. It will give the indication with a magenta circle around the restriction on the MCDU.

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All very useful info thank you. So manual control of speed but continue to use managed descent or open descent mode? Or manual v/s?

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I’ll check that thanks.. All other planes with current settings are fine. I guess this will need some detective work (or an update from the Dev to make it easier for us dummies!)

Hello there,

I downloaded the FBW A380 on day 1, and now I experience what we can call a crash, but no CTD and the sounds goes on like nothing happened.
The full screen freezes and it becomes impossible to open Google or even the Task Manager.

I have to fully restart my PC to exit MSFS and use my computer normally.

Does anyone have any idea ?
(I already post on Bug Reporting Hub page)

Thanks y’all ! :slight_smile:

I use Lossless Scalling, so it might comes from this software…

In the screenshots the aircraft is at/past the decel point, shows 186 as the desired FMC speed, is doing the FMC speed, is running with THR IDLE to get the decel, and is at green dot. With those conditions I would ask why wouldn’t the 1st notch of flaps be out yet?

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To be honest I’ve tried it with slats out and up to flaps 2 too, but the issue is the airspeed keeps dropping (in managed mode) and I can’t descend fast enough to meet the final approach altitude. I don’t want to be at 190kts I’d rather be at 210kts and descending. The trouble with 09L approach from LAM is that the constraints force you to be high with a late / short descent to 2500ft. Which is fine in a smaller airliner but with the A380 it’s giving me some issues like the aircraft being too high on final or too close a.floor if i try to use speedbrakes to descend faster.
Manual speed control during this phase and an open decent might just be the answer I need though. That and Approach phase activating earlier.

It is also entirely possible the WIP state of the flight model and engine performance are contributing. Neither of those are finalized. If drag/lift/engine perf for the various modes of flight are not yet tuned, anything is possible. Certainly the CLB phase is not close, as FBW has said in their documentation. The thing climbs like a fighter jet :slight_smile:

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Agree. It seems to climb at 7000ft/min right up to almost cruise alt! Also (for probably the same reasons) it’s very easy to take off & doesn’t use most of the runway to do so based on the performance calcs and derated t/o.
Also my short hops 1hr flights are guaranteeing I’m lightly loaded so that probably make it climb even faster, but yes it currently feels like it could chase down a F16. lol.

Quite possible. I’m just trying to understand if it’s just me or not.

Have flown 4 legs, learned a lot by watching the very good tutorial videos by the Airbus pilot Emanuel. It seems stable, and none of the usual VNAV problems (that so many other struggles with) and it feels good flying as well.

But what makes me abandon this product is the max simrate. It varies between 1-4 X. 4X can be kept during short periods and then the sim returns it to 2X automatically (or from 2X to 1X) and you have to turn it back again manually, probably because of the current FPS (50-90 in my case). Using the 8K or the 4K versions makes no difference.

This might be ok for those of you wish to spend a whole day for one single flight from A to B. For me and others this is not ok, and far from the long haul standard 8X+ delivered by PMDG and others.

The problem is that you can’t override the simrate, as was the case with A320 when yourself could change the parameters. A320 makes 4X. Also saving a flight and load it again, a basic Flight sim functionality is left out by FBW.

Could this be an alpha release problem? No, most probably not. The attitude from FBW’s side regarding simrate and loading saved flights has been ice cold for years as I’ve confronted them with these 2 matters many times.

I’m running on a GTX 4090 and 12900 processor, 32 GB mem (50% occupied), managing 50-90 Fps and still the sim can’t manage 4X, sorry to say but this is a lack of functionality and design. And to improve this would probably mean a basic reconstructuring of their codebase, which they won’t care for.

I know I will upset plenty of the A380 fans here, including the moderator by not being hallelulija positive. But to me knowledge last longer. PMDG 777 still stands out.

And yes I can hear plenty of people here saying “but it’s freeeeeee” but I don’t care as when I’m in a middle of the simulation money is not an issue to me.

I now put my hope in a potential iniBuild A380 version.

Native, or via frame generation?

This could explain the icy reception you’ve received.

During 2X simrate, and even more durong 1X

Confronting, maybe not the correct english, informed and asked about would describe it better.

Managed descent with spoilers.

Just make sure you’re slowed down to 200kts with flaps 1 before the descent from 6000 (If i remember correctly, the restriction from 7,000ft to 6000ft, then 3000ft and 2500ft). Once the descent begins, use spoilers and you should safely get down to the altitude required with sufficient time to slow down to 180kts with flaps 2.

Have to try and anticipate what the aircraft would do and plan a few steps ahead. Thankfully the spoilers are quite effective on the whale.

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Getting up to 90 fps natively is quite impressive for this plane. I don’t think I could approach that.

Thank you, very useful info. I’ll give this a go tonight. I think the only difference compared to what I’m doing already is keeping the speed higher at 200kts (in manual speed mode) and setting flaps 1 a bit earlier. Hopefully I can get it to descend this time on that apprach.

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Well that’s more like it, that technique works very well. I just landed at EGLL R09L and managed to get the aircraft to descend to the final approach target altitude in a timely manner.

The solution as you say is to set SPD mode to manual and to target airspeed of 200kts + flaps 1 (I actually went for 210kts + flaps 1), and then after that used speed brakes at about 25% to increase the rate of descent further which they did. This really made all the difference for hitting those 4000ft and 2500ft alt targets on time. I didn’t manually activate approach phase and just let the FMS do that automatically like I usually do on other Airbuses. I also left ALT in managed descent mode too. I now have a very straightforward & usable technique for steeper descents, so thank you again for the advice.

So technique for a steeper descent approach is -

  1. Stay in managed descent mode
  2. Switch to manual speed mode & set airspeed to 200-210kts
    (which will hold it there instead of auto (fms controlled) speed mode which will use fms calculated values to set airspeed which seem to be set too low, hindering the rate of descent)
  3. Set flaps to 1
  4. Use speed brakes at 25% to increase rate of decent to meet ALT restriction targets

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I just successfully flew the arrival & approach …
But I kept everything in in managed mode into the ILS capture, until I reached 200ft when I took over.
NB. Once I reached the LAM VOR transition I started putting the flaps down. I did use some speed brake too to meet the constraints.
(The speed numbers in LittleNavMap were not the same as the ones in the FMS – latter were much lower.

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Yes this is something I feel. Like with the B738 that you can hardly get down a glidepath without flaps15/gear down.

Slats will somewhat present you with the similar downforce as spoilers. You might also want to check out the runway procedures page at the charts and see if there are any specific A380 approach speeds mentioned there, they often have pretty detailed instructions on that.

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