Flysimware Cessna 414A

what do you have your ‘L’ set to? i have mine on flashlight so will need to change it

Iirc it is the standard keybind “toggle lights”. Not at the sim currently.

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i found it! you’re right it’s just “toggle lights” which has the description “toggle all EXTERNAL lights”. i have it assigned to ‘i’.

i hit it, and all my external lights went out. i hit it again, and all my external AND interior lights came on! you solved it, cheers! but you’re right its definitely a bug

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Nice it works for you as well.

Haven’t tried the latest, but v4.2.6 was still doing this (not switching on the panel lights).

The workaround is to NOT move the Battery Masterbar to the OFF position (towards you).

If the Masterbar is already off when you first get in cockpit, switching on battery and all that should result in normal working panel lights.
If the Masterbar is already ON (away from you) when you first get in cockpit, DON’T touch the bar, and DON’T do Cold&Dark in the EFB as this will move the Masterbar and frag the panel lights.

This is how I ensured working lights up to v4.2.6
Hope I’ve not made that sound complicated.

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thanks, interesting work around. but i think toggling external lights works a bit easier :slight_smile:

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Thats because they decided to bind battery and bus connections for one switch if you switch on battery bus connection 6 I think changes its state so of you start with battery switch set to on and then set it to off once youre in the cockpit light wont work right as the bus bus connection was switched off when turning on the battery . It took me some time to find all this out through behavior debug.the same goes for the avionics switch I think. This plane was a pain in the ☆☆☆ to set up with spad.next but now its my favourite.

Be prepared to do it all again at some point. This will be the third time I’ve had to go through all the control stuff because he keeps changing it for some reason. These consistent meddling changes are the worst thing about the 414. Yet again we get this recent update that to download is still so slow with whatever hosting service they use and a day later there’s another one blaming a previous FSW update that broke stuff. So much for the beta releases. It’s all seems rush, rush, rush and for very little reason. Really nice aircraft now please just leave it be.

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As a suggestion if only to save others some grief, I just have a look at the change logs, see what the update was for, and then decide if I want those changes incorporated. If I am happy with where I am at the moment and do not need the very minor change installed, I simply skip that update. It all accumulates so if I miss a few, they will get caught up eventually.

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Sage and wise words indeed. We’ll be having none of that here, young Padawan :joy::joy:

I feel sometimes that FOMO is a very real thing in the flight sim community. Ok, in most communities nowadays.
Certainly in my experience with the 414 updates, they can some in multiples, quickly too. It’s hard to determine when to update at times.

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Ok what’s up with the constant updates guys? Imo have to say it’s a bit annoying that they roll out 3 updates within 24h or something.

Most of those are beta updates only available to direct purchasers and only announced on their Discord, but they do sometimes have an issue with not sufficiently testing the final releases. Case in point, 4.3.0 came out after numerous beta hotfixes and then was immediately followed by a patch because circuit breakers and some other systems broke and that wasn’t caught prior to releasing 4.3.0. I’m not super bothered by it, but I get why some people are. It’s been discussed on their Discord which is probably the best place to give them feedback.

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Tried to do some circuits with a 15kt gusting crosswind an it was downright uncontrollable at low speed close to the deck. I’d be yawing uncontrollably and I got such extreme wing lift I almost rolled the plane over despite having full opposite aileron.

It was ridiculous, it certainly did not feel like a large twin. For comparison I flew the taildragger 152 from jpl in the same conditions and while it was a wild ride as expected I managed to keep it more or less in control.

Anyone else having similar experiences? I can’t recall the flight model being so unstable and susceptible to turbulence and wind.

A 15kt wind is pretty strong. What was it gusting at? Are you sure the 414 doesn’t have the more believable flight model?

Is the jpl 152 using the old standard model and the 414 using the newer CFD?
Or vice versa?

A C152 should get nearly blown off the runway in a 15kt gusting crosswind. I’m assuming it’s gusting at 25 knots or more?

I ask because we can’t test the conditions ourselves without knowing more about how you set up the flight.

When you say crosswind, I assume that’s direct crosswind, and not at a less than 90 degree angle to the runway?

Probably up varying from around 12-20kts or so. It wasn’t going crazy or anything, and like I said the 152 handled it much better than the heavy twin which was surprising.

Neither plane uses cfd to my knowledge so that’s not a factor. It was almost pure crosswind but that wouldn’t matter too much in the air flying a circuit. I was testing it at Magenta airport in New Caledonia, time was around 2pm in sim and oat was around 24 deg so not extreme or anything for thermal generation.

Takeoffs were fine with aileron deflected into the wind etc. Getting up to around 100ft the roller coaster starts and you’re fighting to keep the plane level and climbing.

I just couldn’t establish a neat sideslip to align with the runway. I’d just be swung all over the place by the winds.

As I noted, the 414 might be using the new CFD, plus, there are options to turn off the affect of wind on the side of the aircraft. Either of these things might be in play, which can affect how the planes are affected by crosswinds.

Personally, I’d never even think of taking a C152 down in a 15 knot direct crosswind, much less one gusting to 20 knots or more. Especially in the sim, where controls are so imprecise. It takes a lot of coordination to land in a crosswind without getting skipped sideways across the runway, or tipped over as you noted. If the wind gets under the wing… yikes!

But, as I noted, I can’t really say anything about either of these models without trying them myself.

The 152 was surprisingly stable as long as you didn’t get too slow. My landings weren’t great but they were serviceable.

Surely a large twin like the 414 should be able to handle a reasonable crosswind

FWIW from my POH the max demonstrated crosswind is 17 knots. It’s not a limitation, but it should be able to handle 15.

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Right, I was really just pointing out that 15 knots is a really strong crosswind, which could get up under a wing and flip a plane, and it’s even worse if it’s gusting way above that, and asking for the exact conditions so I can try it out myself.

I updated my post with my settings. I was using real weather but set up a decent 15kt crosswind at any airport in the middle of the day in summer and give it a shot. I was testing around Magenta airport in New Caledonia where there are small hills and a town on the approach path so lots of potential for thermals and air movements.