It’s listed in the Wish List for post 2024 launch
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Anyone using XPForce?
Any way of stopping auto loading MSFS?
Yes, when XPForce is running, right click the icon in the task tray and uncheck the start sim option.
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Thank you very, very, much!!!
Perfect solution to my Addons Launcher / XP Force interface.
Works for me.
Been giving XP Force a brief try out with the Sidewinder FFB 2. Some nice effects but not getting any kind of engine feedback while airborne although weirdly I get some feedback (vibration) on the ground with brakes applied when I advance the throttle. Also get some seemingly random kicks on the ground while accelerating before take off which are a bit off putting.
I do think the gear and flap turbulence as well as touch down work quite well and experimenting a bit more with trim feedback - will need to play around with this a bit more over the weekend.
Will give Air Force Player a try out over the weekend as well.
let me know what you think. i tried xpforce a while back with my MSFS FFB2 and didn’t like it at all. i couldn’t get the trim to behave correctly so just gave up. i’ve had my fingers crossed they’d work out the kinks
Is AF Player still available? If so, where can it be found. Thanks. (All the links I’ve found are old >2years and no longer work)
You can get it from a post earlier in this thread…
Thanks, appreciate!
Yep, Thanks for that. Hopefully 2024 will have the FF support.
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I could get it to work fine, when you trimmed in GA the stick moved to the new position rather than staying centered. You could hold the stick for straight and level and adjust trim to remove force and it would stay in that position, just like IRL .
The issue I had was the real world stick position and the on screen stick position visually got way out of sync.
With the latest ground textures and other aircraft flight data coming in MSFS2024 it sounds like an ideal opportunity to review the force feedback option missing from MSFS2020.
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FFB is the future
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Then let’s make a kickstarter for it.
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Is there anybody out there who has managed to get force feedback (Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback 2 in particular) working in FS2024?
I have been using XP-Force in FS2020 in the past and had some small hopes that it might also recognise FS2024 (via Simconnect) - but no luck so far.
EDIT: IT SEEMS TO WORK AFTER ALL!!! Need to do some further testing though…
To Microsoft & Asobo: We need native support for force feedback. I know it‘s (still) a pretty small target group but for people who are being serious about flight simulation, it should be an absolute no-brainer.
With new and more or less affordable force feedback hardware becoming available, Microsoft Flight Simulator is lagging behind other Simulators (Both DCS and Condor Soaring Simulator) have native support and it‘s amazing. As a real world pilot and former flight instructor, nothing is more important than being able to feel the aerodynamic forces on the controls and being able to trim the aircraft properly by removing the loads on the stick. At one point, it was promised for FS2024 and I really hope that despite the recent and rather negative comments from Asobo, it will still arrive at one point. While in a way it should be included in the base product, I understand that it might be difficult to justify the development because only a handful of customers will be able to profit from it. My suggestion would be to develop it as an expansion that hardcore sim pilots can purchase.
Of course, a good third party payware solution is also welcome (although I think that native support would ultimately be the best way)
Thanks and kind regards
Patrik
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Was hoping that xpforce would work through simconnect in 2024… It’s a shame, that we still have no native support.
I would also pay for it!
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Whats the really problem to add MS-FFB2 support?
I think there a lot pilots own one and want support.
For FS2020 i use XP-Force to add FFB (20Euro)
So FFB is possible to add also in FS2024.
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The difference between XP-force and the real FFB is that the real FFB comes from the interaction of the game to the aircraft and that needs to be designed in.
The others are just generic subsitutes.
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Yes, the issue seems to be that Asobo when importing the original FSX code to create FS2020 left out FFB as they assumed it was just unnecessary effects a bit like XBOX rumble.
This means the best you can get is software that emulates FFB from data like airspeed rather than working with the actual forces on the airframe.
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Thanks for you observations Patrik, I come here just to say that and you said beautifully.
How do you do to make XPforce works with FS24? Thanks
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