I fail to see how youtubers manage to obtain 50-60 plus fps.
I have watched to the point of ad nauseum youtube videos from the many respected FS people who have the knowledge. Tried many different settings to the point of mixing and matching various settings but, cannot get any better than 35-40 fps.
Although my frame rates are pretty reasonable I just cannot get any better my gaming rig is no slouch as can be seen in the attached screen shot.
Any suggestions to TRY and get better fps would be appreciated.
I have my in game setting to HIGHEND and other settings as per the screen shot.
First thing to do is turn developer mode on, go to the new debug menu, and open the FPS display. That will tell you where to focus based on if you’re CPU or GPU limited. It’ll also tell you the frame time of each. If you want 60 fps, your frame time needs to be at or below 16.6ms.
If you are CPU limited, the areas to focus on are the amount of AI traffic and the LOD settings. Those are some of the biggest contributors to CPU bottlenecks. Your CPU is getting a little long in the tooth for simming, so I suspect this is your biggest issue.
If GPU limited, then look at the various graphics settings. I noticed you are running 1080p, so I doubt this is your problem.
If you are running any RGB or monitoring software, try turning those off and see if you have any improvements. Those may not have a huge impact on average frame rates, but can cause noticeable micro-stutters.
If you can post screenshots from a busy airport with the sim’s built in FPS display, and screenshots of both your traffic and graphics settings, that would help us get you fine tuned.
We need more details about your graphics options settings.
Post a screenshot of the rest of that page.
And, as Mooncat3953 said, what are your trafffic settings?
You say you can’t get better than 35-40 FPS?
Fly one of the default GA single-engine pistons (like the C172 or the Bonanza) over the Sahara @ 5,000 AGL and tell us your framerate and latency (as displayed by Dev Mode.)
As suggested flew the desert @ 5000 and still only 39 fps.
My traffic an other settings are as in the attached screen shots.
I am beginning to think that my CPU is just not upto giving more than I am getting.
I appreciate all the help and advice from all the people here.
That may be the case. Some things you can still do are turn the two LOD sliders down some more, kill off airport life (make sure to leave airport vehicles at 1 or more or pushback will break) and land/sea traffic, and turn your glass cockpit refresh rate to low. That will give maybe a marginal increase in frame rates.
Something seems to be limiting your FPS to 40. Check that you have VSync disabled in Nvidia Control Panel on the global and MSFS settings. And make sure you are not running a tool like MSI Afterburner or other that can also be limiting your FPS to 40.
I had an I7 4790K and RTX 2060 Super and had more than 60 FPS over the desert in a default Cessna. I’m pretty sure something is limiting your FPS or your CPU is heating and throttling. Check your temps.
Sorry, I got this thread mixed up with another user that is having issues on a laptop when I made that comment. I deleted the irrelevant portion of it.
Temps look ok and I ensured that V sync is turned off in Nvidia control panel in both global and program settings and is off in the sim itself.
Temps as seen in left side while sim running over desert @4500ft
I have taken land and sea to zero, airport life, vehicle density to one, acft density to 23 and worker to one.
Still only 39fps.
It seems that changes do not make any difference to my frame rate. Some what odd and perplexing.
It’s 1700 here in Melbourne, Australia and time for a scotch and soda.
More to do with this tomorrow.
Thanks for your help.
Do you have a 120Hz monitor? I ask because you are remarkably consistent in your screenshots and reports of roughly 40fps, which would be like having v-sync on at 1/3 monitor refresh rate. That you are flying in very sparse conditions and turning CPU related settings down further haven’t improved things is sounding almost like you have a v-sync setting on (not shown in your screenshots, but could also be in the GPU software).
I’ve seen this before, albeit in VR. I had the refresh rate artificially locked at the lowest setting because I didn’t expect my GPU to keep up. When looking at the fps display, I noticed my CPU frame times skyrocketed relative to running 2D, which made no sense. Turns out my GPU was able to run it faster than I expected, but the artificial frame cap and resulting idle time was presenting itself as additional CPU frame time. When I increased the VR refresh rate, my CPU frame times went down as my actual frame rates went up.
I know it’s a bit of a long shot, but a v-sync issue would explain a lot.
I agree with others here that it looks like something is capping your framerate. But what? You’ve got vSync off everywhere. Even if capped at 40 FPS your latency numbers should be much lower over the Sahara.
Your system and mine (5800X3D and 3090 Ti) are pretty evenly matched in all the gaming benchmarks I’ve watched. I get 90+ FPS and 12ms latency flying a Bonanza over the Sahara.
I’m curious what your framerate / latency numbers are in demanding scenery with the same GA plane.
I started a flight at 5,000 AGL about 15 NM east of NYC, heading due west.
I was getting 30 FPS / 35 ms in my Bonanza.
Compare that to my numbers over the Sahara.
If you see comparable numbers there, but only 40 FPS over the Sahara, then that pretty much proves you have some setting that’s capping your framerate.
I don’t fly over the dessert but at EGNM on the ground in live weather I get around 39-45 fps on the ground and around 50 fps+ in the air on my 2017 based PC (yeah, pretty old now).
Specs:
I5 7600k (OC 4.6ghz), 2070s, 48 gb RAM, 1440p on 35 inch ultra, DX12, 2 side screens used for P2ATC and AA0 gauges.
My graphics settings are fairly similar to yours except shadows\reflections are at lowest, AI traffic/ground traffic are at 5%, ambient occlusion is at medium, AA is TAA rather than DLSS. I have virtually nothing in the Community Folder though and I have disabled PG. I also turn off Defender Real Time when in game.
Your PC system is much better than mine and I am pretty sure you should be getting much better performance than you are getting.
A few comments:
what speed is your RAM running at in BIOS ?
do you run MSFS on SSD or HDD?
how much stuff do you have in your CF and is it up to date?
what aircraft are you flying? I fly GA (e.g. A2A Comanche etc). If you are flying something like the Fenix then that’s a different ball game.
try cleaning out both Nvidia Caches
I also clear out Windows Prefetch and Temp folders too but YMMV
if you’re not bothered about PG then disabling that can also give you a big perf. boost
go into developer mode and see whether you are CPU or GPU restricted. Try reducing the settings which impact the one you are restricted by
are there any heavy background progs running? E.g. Chrome/Edge with a lot of open tabs.
look at Task Master to see what programs are running and ascertain if your GPU/CPU is struggling and running near 100%
what anti virus are you using and what are your AV settings? Some can have a pretty heavy impact
Hi Kayembee370
My RAM is G.Skill F4-3200C16-16GTZR DDR4 two sticks running at 1066Mhz. Checked BIOS ram running at 2133Mhz
Using a Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB
Community is pretty loaded and current
I am a GA guy and fly twins and turbo props
Nvidia cache was cleared
Did a disk cleanup
I am main thread limited and I have land traffic etc to either 1 or 0, airport traffic similar
I generally have chrome open, track IR and authentikit tuning app for my elevator trim and VB-AUDIO for my butt kicker
Task manager is showing zero for just about every task and 0.1 for others
Only antivirue is Defender
I am sure that you are on the money with a setting capping my frame rate because I get the same frame rates whether it be the desert of NYC.
I am considering a fresh reinstall of MSFS in the hopes that it might solve the issue.
I have started to wonder if my internet plan might have something to do with it. I have fibre on a 50Mbps plan. Maybe i need to up it.
