FSEXPO 2021 and no Msfs presence

[CptLucky8]

@PuffinFlight

Do you really think MSFS need promoting around simmers? Every simmer knows about it. Hardcore simmers will bash it till the end of time (many times rightfully so). New people that could become simmers never heard of FSexpo. But they do check news from E3 and similar events.

If you’re genuinely asking what I do think, I don’t need to repeat myself in this topic. If however my post lead you to believe I was expressing any personal opinion then I’m sorry to have poorly expressed myself.

I’m was just raising what I find is an interesting point of view on 2 seemingly (but only seemingly) opposing interpretations to the topic question.

However if I were to give you any answer, the best one would be what the FS2020 teams was selling us back then, which should leaves no doubt about why simmers are expecting them to be exhibiting in simmers dedicated shows:

“We got to get this right with you guys first, and by you guys I mean the people that really have been propping up this thing for the past 35 years”

@Crunchmeister71

It leads to believe:

• They neither care about nor want to engage this group

Who knows? Sure enough pandemic is not without consequences to the organization of these events.

Actually here is what I wrote nearly a year ago:

@cptlucky8

I agree this is a good step forward! Games are certainly not promoted the same between 2007 and 2020 and direct communication with the community is paramount nowadays and this is an important step forward which we are certainly all agreeing to and welcoming warmly.

Please note though with FSX, Microsoft has invited nearly all the 3rd party developers in a pre-launch event which gave the occasion to not only discovering the upcoming simulator and planning ahead future developments but also to socialize and get contacts with ACE Studio developers. With FS2020 Microsoft has invited influencers and bloggers in a pre-launch event. Only a select few 3rd party developers seem to have access to Asobo developers beyond this forum (per their saying and the 3rd parties in their forums).

I’m not drawing any particular conclusion about this because these are not the same products and certainly not the same go to market strategy. They are recognizant of the community passion and involvement trying and helping them making FS2020 a very good product. Likewise, there are more than a couple few 3rd party vendors more than willing to help Asobo building a better SDK.

The only conclusion I’d be drawing is Asobo is showing a strong commitment to FS2020 and this is really sending a very positive message to the community.

But let’s not fool ourselves either, this was the ACE Studio:

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@wombatlemineur

It’s obvious you didn’t follow development from the start … they also invited known fsyoutubers to those events, and it was always stated that it will be a full blown sim that won’t be dumbed down.

I’ve commented about this a few days ago in another topic:

@CptLucky8

There is another major difference between FSX and FS2020:

Prior their next launch in 2007 Microsoft invited nearly all the 3rd party dev community to Seattle for engaging with us, and also giving us an opportunity to socialize and meet our peers and ACE Studio devs. This was a great opportunity to discover what’s coming up, to learn directly from the ACE Studio devs for questions related to the SDK, and to be able to discuss and make suggestions for our needs. They’ve kept their channels open directly between their developers and us afterward, the 3rd party devs. For FS2020 they have chosen to invite Youtubers instead.

I’m not judging anything in saying this, I’ll let everyone forge their own opinions, but the fact remains the priority for the ACE Studio was to reaching out to the entire 3rd party dev community directly and prior their next major industry revolutionizing product launch. I’ve been trying to find some old blog posts about this, but it was a long time ago.

This one however is funny because we could already fly Reno Races there:
Seattle 2007 | SceneryDesign.org

we could play a multiplayer Reno airrace mission with a group of developers. Although we could not do the mission in slew mode, it actually went quite well and it certainly was a lot of fun.

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@CptLucky8

However as for the FSX team, at least the ACE studio leads used to answer my emails, to share their enthusiasm with Reality XP products and they were recognizant of the outstanding quality of our work and how much Reality XP was raising the bar for the simmers. I keep my mind open though.

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Some more info about the DevCon 2007 event:

@CptLucky8

I’m actually reading some blog posts there and this is reminding me a lot of things!

Here are a few samples showing how profound this was for the entire 3rd party dev community:

Day 5: DevCon 1st day | SceneryDesign.org

For example I met Bob Bernstein and Bill Womack, two people I know for years already from different internet fora for scenery designers. It was really nice to talk with them in person. I also met different users of the FSDeveloper website,

And of course I should not forget to mention all the people from the ACES team I talked with during they day. Being able to talk so easily with them about things that we (as the community) think are important is a great benefit of an event like this.

Day 8: AvSim FanCon day 1 | SceneryDesign.org

The 2nd and 3d day of the DevCon kept me quite busy, so I did not write a new blog posts about them. But I can tell you that those two days were great as well. Learned a lot and spoken to a lot of interesting people.

In the evening there was the AvSim Awards Banquet. They had two very interesting speakers, the first was a Boeing test pilot who gave a talk about the Boeing 747 Superfreighter that is used to transport parts of the 787. And the second speaker was Eric Lindbergh Jr.

It was so nice to be able to meet all these outstanding figures of the flight simulation world! And with the Avsim FanCon right after the MSFT DevCon, it was even greater to meet all the people we were used to know mostly online only. Good souvenirs of these 2 events.