Just to add to Kyle’s sentiments, you will not be allowed to share any of my repaints or anything else I’ve released at my website or any other sites.
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Someone should delete this one. He publicly offers piracy.
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■■■■■ cristus they are talking to all the painters to get their permission. Scroll up before you comment. And even if they don’t get it they can still use the models and make their own liveries. No need to be so premature and say this should be shut down. Remember this is our best chance at getting proper AI traffic in the sim right now. Why would anybody not consent to their liveries being part of it?
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Please read the official statement on the AIG ban.
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I have seen companies go after people that provide freeware for other things. Just because they haven’t started with Flight Sim liveries and aircraft doesn’t mean they can’t/won’t. They own the brands and if you copy and use their brands it doesn’t matter if you do it for pay or for free , they can still come after you. Whether they feel it’s worth the effort is up to them.
To see mod authors complain about someone using their work without their permission it amuses me when those same authors used a companies IPs and called it there own without permission.
AIG raised cane about FSLTL and refused to work with them because they claimed at first FSLTL was not getting permission for using other’s work. What’s their excuse now that FSLTL authors are trying to get permission. Do you think AIG got the airliners permission to inject their IP into flight simulators?
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there is a major difference between Copyright, Trademarks and so on 
They can come after YOU, heck, I can come after everyone here. Winning is another story. Without proving damages, they don’t have a leg to stand on since you aren’t depriving them of profit or making profit instead of them. Lawsuits require that damages were done, otherwise it is just nonsense. That is why freeware is usually not sued.
Remember, anyone can sue anyone, anyytime , but that doesn’t make it a valid lawsuit. Judges throw most out that have no merit.
actual freeware painters are getting sometimes help from the airlines - this is free advertisment^^
i doubt the major aurlines even rweply to them lol
## Copyrights and Trademarks as Intellectual Property (IP)
Copyrights and trademarks are both forms of intellectual property., which is a mental creation that has value to a business. In addition to copyrights, trademarks, and service marks, intellectual property includes patents. From an accounting standpoint, because this intellectual property has value, it is considered an intangible asset (with no physical form) and IP can be bought and sold, or its use can be [licensed,]
Apparently you fancy yourself a lawyer. Well then, you better read up on the law. Damages don’t have to be monetary. And you last sentence even points it out (“usually”). IP has an owner in the laws eyes and can’t be used freely without some type of agreement with that owner. You may be able to copy a IP for personal use, but once you start offering it to others then IP laws (copyright, trademark, patent, etc.) kick in.
And this may be why a IP holder looks the other way or not. They may feel that no harm was done to their brand and in fact help was done to their brand, but just because they may have locked the other way doesn’t mean they release their claim to that brand and any use of it.
To win trademark infringement cases, you have to prove that the alleged infringer caused confusion as to the source of goods or services. [Trademark violation can be very expensive to prove] because of the evidence required to show likely confusion: customer surveys, social science data, and consumer psychology. All that data may be necessary to make the case that the infringer really did infringe your trademark.
Since it is pretty clear that AI Airlines are not offering any actual flights no harm can be done to the airlines provided service. And as you wrote: They can contact the painters and ask to remove theier work - and this will be done then.
Paints created by painters for AI Airplanes are a piece of art and are therefor protected by Copyright. And this Copyright allows them to control and decide what users can do with this work and were it can be released.
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Stop and think about that paragraph for a second. A paint that copies a real life paint. You claim it’s a piece of art. So who’s art is it. The airline that commissioned it to start with or the livery painter that copied it.
Do Hot Wheels cars do any harm to passengers? Are they released from IP liability because they don’t from the likes of Ford, Porsche, Mercedes, etc. and free to use their brands as they see fit without the IP owner’s permission?
if you make liveries, and you post them in internet…and you dont sell them…what can you hope from the simmer people?
we are little child playing with the present you give.
if you dont want people share your creation: dont post them like freeware in internet.
more of this: i never said my liveries were from you…
maybe they are my painting.
jcai, the flying carpet, etc,…post every day thousand of liveries or model.
sorry creator but, how are you going to take control of 1.000.000.0000 people if you post and let download your creation?
i really cant undersand this child actitude. (thats mine, and only mine, and only mine…just watch it but dont share…")
anyway…my liveries are going to be used by myself, and i only wanted to contribute wiht the team.
As a painter for thousands of liveries for some of the biggest airline brands out there, I will gladly take down my work should anyone of the airlines ask. However, in 15 some odd years of doing this, nothing close to this has ever happened.
And that’s a good thing don’t you think. I 'm just explaining that just because they haven’t done anything, it doesn’t mean they’ve released the rights to their IP.
Hello Sofie,
What about realistic landing flare and touchdown effect ?
this is still broken part of ai planes…
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Thank you again for all your work - really hoping you’ve provided the OK to FSLTL.
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Perhaps yo7yu should lol
I said damages, didn’t say it HAD to be monetary in every case, but this type of “work/product” would only fall under monetary since it isn’t actual a case of “damage” to reputation or other non monetary effect. The plaintiff, in any case has to approve “damages”, of whatever type there is. That alone costs money.
No, I am not a lawyer, but did study a bit of law and court procedures as a requirement of being a law enforcement officer. I have the experience of sitting in dozens of lawsuits and even being sued half a dozen times and have an idea of how cases tend to end up. These ae more like they are asked to “cease” type situations.
I am going to guess that you did not read the comment that I was replying to.
My question is, what does this offer that the IVAO’s liveries package does not already?