GA Complex Piston Twin

In lieu of the A2A Aerostar 600 delay, I’ve been looking forward to the Cessna 310R being developed by Milviz. I don’t know exactly how study level it will be (hopefully very) or when it’s likely to come out:

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Yep. The 310R is top of my current wishlist, followed by the Twotter. About time we heard something more. Keep watching for updates as it is hopefully soonish.

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I know this is super nitpickey but tip-tanks always put me off aesthetically. So the 310R will have to be really good in the cockpit.

I actually love the way the tip tanks look.

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Hm, aren’t Learjets looking much better with tiptanks?
The same goes for the Starfighter and I can’t imagine a MU-2 without tiptanks.

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No, no, and no. :wink:

I’m sure there is/was solid engineering reasons for them. But I have yet to find an aircraft that has them that I think looks good.

Of course there are solid reasons and they are simple. You need space to store additional fuel.
A Learjet without tiptanks isn’t a real Learjet. :wink:

Cessnas are using the tiptanks as maintanks.

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On the 310r the idea was safety. In any accident, the tanks were supposed to rip off the wing, napalm fashion and thus decrease any fire risk to the crew. This led to a very entertaining fuel system and we no doubt will see that. Later marks of the 310R had an option for supplementary tanks, but getting your head around the fuel system was quite something, by all accounts.

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Can anyone recommend any good complex twin GA? So far I have been flying default DA62 and Baron with improvement mods and both have been great however they are not that complex (with regards to systems/flight dynamics/engine management etc). I am looking for something similar to what A2A simulations did back in the day for P3D and FSX. So far I am interested in milviz’s C310 or flysimware’s C414.

Any recommendations/thoughts?

You might want to check this thread.

Can anyone recommend any good complex twin GA? So far I have been flying default DA62 and Baron with improvement mods and both have been great however they are not that complex (with regards to systems/flight dynamics/engine management etc). I am looking for something similar to what A2A simulations did back in the day for P3D and FSX. So far I am interested in milviz’s C310 or flysimware’s C414.

Any recommendations/thoughts?

There is always this :slight_smile:

Thanks - looks like both are reasonably priced at $39.99, C310 is more appealing to me.

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Black Square’s analog Baron is one of the best in terms of systems complexity for pistons in MSFS currently

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The Blacksquare Baron is much more complex, although the out of the box FM is a bit rubbish as it’s pretty much the default one. All of them are valid choices & they all have pluses & minuses, you’ll probably be as happy with one as any of the others. Blacksquare have it on systems depth at the moment, I think - they use a stock external model, so no playing around with doors & compartments if that matters. The 414 didn’t have wear & anything more than engine failures last time I used it.

The Blacksquare King Air is just about within consideration also.

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Thanks guys for the feedback - I took a plunge and ended up getting C310 after all. It looks great and flies great. There is service based element to it which yet I am to discover.

Thanks - I currently have installed Baron improvement mod which works great with working title G1000 and so far I am happy with. Although steam gauges do sound great!

Thanks - I had a look at blacksquare’s baron and it has good option with steam gauges. However I already fly default baron with improvement mod which works great with working title G1000, perfect for IFR flights however have also flown few VFRs as well. I was looking for something different - C414 was also great option although I ended up getting C310 from Milviz or blackbird simulations I think it is called. So far it is great and it is joy to hand fly.

The BKSQ does come with a pressurised one which gives options. The 310 handling I find part great & part very wierd, but I’m pickier than most.

i have the 414 from flysimware for about 2 weeks now and fly it exclusively now. it was a pleasure setting up my homecockpit gear for it now I dont want to fly another plane anymore. I was really impressed by the system depth for a general aviation aircraft (you get to appreciate things working as they should a lot more when using 3rd party tools to bind your switches and buttons). also love the sound and feel of power those 2 engines give you for me its the best plane ive had so far for msfs. the efb tablet is also great to use. all in all it was worth every penny for me (it was on discount some time ago for 30 €)