Glass opacity problem in Asobo aircraft

[some1pl]

ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Some aircraft from Asobo that were updated from MSFS 2020 have problem with glass windows becoming more opaque in direct sunlight. This is the most glaring (pun intended) issue in DV20, Cirrus SR22, Baron G36 and Robin DR100 but there may be other aircraft with the same problem, I haven’t checked every one.

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

All the time if the sun is up

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

1. Load Diamond DV20 on a clear day with no clouds
2. Adjust the time slider to morning-noon
3. compare to outside view and MSFS2020

YOUR SETTINGS

Ultra preset

MEDIA

DV20 outside:

DV20 inside:

SR22 inside

Robin inside

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[CasualClick]

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• See supporting screenshot - this is a valid defect.

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[Eclex4768]

I confirm the G36 and Cirrus sr22T.

[AboezD]

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• yes

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• as per OP

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[AndyXPO]

Yes same problem in most of the default aircraft. VL3 is particularly bad, and so is the TBM.

I assume it is due to the fact that windshield effects always reverts to medium, no matter if you select high on the settings menu.

[MissTschai]

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• yes. It is absolutely horrible and prevents enjoying flights in the DV20. I’m a real world student pilot on the DV20 and I can say visibility is not at all like this. This issue actually made me go back to 2020 to practice.

[SmotheryVase665]

Reported for the Savage Cub here:
https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/zlin-savage-cub-cockpit-glass-semi-opaque/677137

[SmotheryVase665]

ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:
The Zlin Savage Cub Cockpit Glass is Semi-Opaque, particularly when viewing directly ahead.

If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue:
Zlin Savage Cub

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?
No 3rd-Party or Community Addons (default installation) / Yes

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?
Every time

REPRODUCTION STEPS

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1. Choose Free Flight, set the flight conditions to preset / clear skies & time of day to around midday (local). The weather & exact time is not important - these settings just show the problem most clearly.
2. Start the Zlin Savage Cub either cold & dark & Shift-C to enter the cockpit; or on a runway.
3. Focus on the area along the edges of the glass. Notice the grey tinge that covers most of the glass, except at the edges (Pic #1, below).
4. When in flight, this transparency "greyness’ issue becomes very noticable (Pic #2). When viewing to the left (Pic 3) you can clearly see a dividing line.
5. When viewing to the right (Pic #4) the whole glass area just looks wrong, particularly the circluar object attached to the glass.

YOUR SETTINGS

What peripherals are you using, if relevant:
N/A

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?
Developer Mode is Off / No changes

[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?
N/A

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?
Intel Arc 770 (16GB, v32.0.101.6299).

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?
Build: v1.1.9.0
Graphics Tab: Full Screen; HDR: Off; Resolution: 3840 x 2160; AA: TAA; Render scaling: 70; AMD FidelityFX: 100; VSync: Off; FRL: N/A; Dynamic FRT: Off; TLOD: 400; OST Pre-Cache: Ultra; Disp. Map: On; Buildings: High; Trees, Plants, Rocks, Grass: Medium; OLD: 150; Clouds, Texture Res: Ultra; AF: 16x; TS: 2x2; Water: Medium; RayTracing: On; SM: 2048; TS: 1024; CS: High; WE, AO: Medium; CR: 256; RR: Medium; LS: Ultra; DoF, MB: Off, GCRR: High; CQ: Ultra; TAQ, AT, RT, ST: High.

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[Jummivana]

Thank you for the bug report.

We have created an internal ticket to see if our team already has this logged, and if not they will attempt to reproduce the issue and create a new bug report. This item is now marked as feedback-logged. If there is an existing bug report or one is created, we will move this thread to bug-logged

[TaruTaru113]

The canopy glass is fogged up, making it difficult to see the scenery clearly.
The Extra330LT has a greenish canopy, while the Pitts S-2S has a white, transparent canopy even when viewed from the outside.

YOUR SETTINGS

RTX3070

[CountedWord83]

Additionally while we’re flying towards the sun, the spinning propeller creates an unrealistic shadow on the canopy, causing noticeable stuttering visual effect. It is visible at least on DV-20.

[jb21986]

Just to add, this problem exists with the King Air 350 too. Something I haven’t seen mentioned is it impacts the screens too - it’s like they’re in direct sunlight even when they’re not:

[ButtOwipoLIVE]

Could this be related to lights and GNS530 screen glowing during night time? I wonder…

PMS50 GTN750 does not do this only Asobo GNS530.

[Tierborn]

I have the same opacity issue

[FarawayBark4261]

I am also seeing the canopy effect issue. Not just glare during sunny flights, but the scratches and abrasions effects are too high. At times you cannot see the runway due to the canopy effects. Numerous aircraft. Too many to list.

[WeamDreaver]

Same issue here with the G36. Glass is milky outside and inside.

[SweetVenon32]

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• It is not only the windshield (which is glared by the sunlight) but the PFD and MFD are almost opaque as well. The difference in King Air 350i from MSFS 2020 is BIG! I cannot fly this plane until this is fixed.

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:

If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue:
Cirrus SR22T

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?
Cleared community folder, issue still present

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?
Every time

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

1.Load aircraft on a sunny day
2.Observe windshield opacity to be far too high
3.

YOUR SETTINGS

If the issue still occurs with no mods and add-ons, please continue to report your issue. If not, please move this post to the User Support Hub.

What peripherals are you using, if relevant:
Not relevant

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?
No

[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?
RTX 4090

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?
Nothing relevant

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[rozellespi]

Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• yes

Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:
• On TBM 930 and Bonanza 36 any variants same poor visibility through windscreen and all windows.

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[Pilothead3646]

I have the same Problem. Asobo please fix IT !!!