Glider tutorial bugged

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

I just did the very first glider tutorial activity, and the whole speed management part of it (which is most of the mission) is incredibly buggy.

It looks like the Glider is a German model, and the instructor told me to pitch down and speed up to 167 km/h. That is very hard to do, for multiple reasons:

  • The airspeed indicator (game overlay) shows the speed in knots, not km/h
  • The airspeed indicator in the aircraft itself (actually in km/h) is wildly inaccurate

At first, not realizing that the instruction mentioned km/h, I tried pitching down until I reached 167 knots (the interface doesn’t even display knots, but I guess it’s clear that it’s not km/h). This caused me to overspeed and fail the mission. This is more user-error than an issue with the game itself, although I think this could be made much more clear to the user.

Next, I observed the instruments in the aircraft itself (the ones to at the right side, which are in km/h), but the mission objective didn’t clear when I reached 167 km/h. The inaccuracy wasn’t just a few km/h, but 10+, which is quite the large margin of error.

I was finally able to actually get this done by using my phone to convert 167 km/h to knots, which worked out to 90 knots. Using the airspeed indicator of the game interface then allowed me to actually reach 90 knots.

I see two possible solutions:

  • Define the mission objectives in knots, having the user rely on the game interface
  • Fix the km/h indicator in the aircraft itself (which should be done anyway), and also make it clear to the user (who might have no idea about knots and km/h at this point in the game) that they can’t rely on the airspeed indicator of the game interface. Highlighting the airspeed monitor in the aircraft itself would be quite helpful here.

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

Every time

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Enter the first glider tutorial activity and try to clear the objective

YOUR SETTINGS

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What peripherals are you using: Thrustmaster T.Flight HOTAS X (not relevant to this issue)

MEDIA

I don’t have a screenshot, but it should be fairly easy to reproduce

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Moved out from SU4 since not a regression.

Agree that the internal HUD should also show km/h in case a training or situation requires it. Even if Unit of Measurement is set to metric, speed in the HUD is displayed in kts. (this wish could be of some interest Customized HUD in all views).
An alternative is to use the external view and set the External HUD to “Full” so you’ll have speed in both kts & km/h:

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I started the training and did not notice an inaccuracy with the airspeed indicator. Once the needle reached 167 km/h the mission step changed to green. If you can reproduce, a video will be useful, don’t know how to achieve that on Xbox.

Since it is a German glider the ASI comes in km/h in europe. So the actual implementation is a design choice. Not sure if for some countries they may deliver it with an ASI that has both kts & km/h or just kts.
IMO, the best approach would be to have the internal HUD showing speed in kts and/or km/h as an option.

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That would certainly make a lot of sense, yes. Thanks for the workaround with setting the External HUD to “Full”; I’ll check it out!

Hmm I’ll see if I can get a video. I definitely remember the mission step not turning green until much later, and the ASI inside the cockpit showed a much higher number (much higher than 167 km/h) when I actually hit 90 knots. Could be an intermittent issue; I’ll take a look and see if it happens again.

For sure! I was referring to the inaccuracy of the km/h-based ASI I was experiencing, rather than the choice of having it in km/h in the first place. That’s totally fine with me, and makes sense if the Glider comes with a km/h-based ASI by default.

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