I could see both clouds near ground and fog near ground before SU7. Especially at release. Those fog layer interacted with terrain. Now that fog exists in a fixed circle instead. The fog maybe not was located were they were in those METAR, but they moved dynamically as fog does IRL. If i observed and reported a METAR there that MEATR would have matched what i could see. As the weather is now i observe it doesn’t look/feel believable.
I think it should be possible to blend it in a way that looks convincing, but i’m no technical expert.
But either way maybe they should refrain from using a system that’s a work in progress and doesn’t look convincing at all. Maybe do some more research first and introduce it when it works.
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Or just have it in one source and let us know it’s as accurate as forecasts is. To report problems with accuracy give feedback to Meteoblue to make it more accurate in the future. I think they have more knowledge how to make weather more accurate and look smooth at the same time. They calculate the whole world weather to fit together. Weather stations doesn’t do that thing. They only report what they see around that specific local area and then the weather stays like that until next report after 30 minutes.
I know its not very scientific but just done a 30 minute flight from EGNT to the strip at Eshott and its very gusty out there (I’m about 10 miles east of EGNT) and the weather in the sim seems to be accurately reflecting the real world.
The problem with the meteoblue weather is (AFAIK), that it is generated too long in advance. Especially with thunderstorms, weather can change rapidly. As others noticed, this can cause problems on online networks.
How far in advance, 12 hours? Do forecasts really change that much in that time?
SU8 needs to be postponed hands down. Too many issues for too little gain.
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I think it is somewhere between 6-18 hours, so 12 should be good.
However some types of weather are less predictable than others, at least in my experience (I’m not a meteorologist). Where I live, 9 out of 10 times when a thunderstorm is predicted it isn’t going to happen or they are 20km away. What I understand is that these things can be very local. If that area is an airport, it will show up in the metar but not necessarily in the sim because it wasn’t in the meteoblue data.
Or it does show up in the sim because of the meteoblue model but it isn’t there in real life (and in the metar)
Hopefully there’s a way to satisfy all of us 
(the thing Asobo/ms messed up is calling it live weather or real weather)
I’ve done some flying around the UK today where we have really gusty conditions in real life. In MSFS no wind gusts at all, static wind every landing even when gusts reported in METAR. Only the odd bit of turbulence from terrain which shifts the wind slightly.
Not the challenging conditions they should have been, far from it.
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If you’ve got some time, load into CYKF and see how its represented in sim. We’ve got a major storm moving through the area with very gusty conditions. I’m stuck at work
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I’ve tried three or four flights in the fbw320 with the su8 beta in intentionally bad weather. Weather where the majority of RL flights were cancelled. I was looking forward to challenging departures, and each one was silky smooth. No airspeed fluctuations. No bounces. I even loaded up the 152 and flew right into the storm and no issues. The wind speed was as reported in the METAR, but no gusts or bounces.
I remember very vividly (because it was mildly annoying, but I liked the challenge) having a hardtime clicking things in the 320 cockpit because of turbulence and fluctuations prior to SU7. Haven’t had that at all lately.
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Here is how it looks at CYKF:
As for the actual gusts, unfortunately gusts are not working in Live weather currently. Although wind speed is crazy high - 70 knots at only 3,000ft!
Cheers for loading in and checking it out. Yup, its VERY windy. Sounds like my work building will be knocked over. But mostly gusts. Its kind of calm and then BAM, the wind comes. It would be very challenging flying conditions!
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Yeah, I just did circuit of the airport and not gusty or challenging at all, unfortunately 
Correct. The exact timing and location of a thunderstorm is hard to predict. But inserting it into the sim just because METAR says TSRA would look terribly out of context.
It’s simple really: to have a consistent and realistic weather in MSFS will require some tolerance for occasional error.
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It’s still Meteoblue that handles the accuracy of it. To me it feels wrong complaining about accuracy of forecasts. It’s not Asobo that handles the accuracy of forecasts. I think Asobo did a good choice to use them as weather in the sim. I think the most of us used forecasted weather instead of 3rd party metar addons pre su7.
We should complain if the weather doesn’t match meteoblue forecasts nothing else.
I think everyone would know the real weather is impossible to bring into a computer.
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Repeated that flight a few minutes ago too myself in a C172.
In 3000 ft I had gusts as expected. The reaction of the plane, I mean the movements
of the plane, were like in real flying. - Fantastic - I would not have said this some months ago !
Formely the plane made some nervous convulsions only.
Yet at short final the storm gave way to a calm smooth wind.
I am sure, Asobo will make that part of the landing phase more realistically quite soon too.
But as one author said, you cannot do everything at once.
Bye, walter
Toronto, nice country 
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I just tried the flight again, and got bumped around quite a bit more than previous. Strange.
As you say just too smooth on the final landing stage
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Because for example every controller uses metar to decide active runways. At worst case scenario winds/visibility in forecast could be so different that you cannot land in that airport.
METAR is closest source to real weather, yeah it’s not real time but still better than forecasted.
From METAR needed is wind, visibility, cloud base, possible rain/snow and QNH at least.
Weather system is not open for 3rd party. I don’t consider those couple hacky mods as viable options.
Yes because there is not so many proper planes at MSFS yet, 1 at the moment in my books. But really good addons are just around a corner which will bring more flyers to the sim.
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