Like many others, I’m still using Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 for most of my flights. But I’ve noticed some improvements in Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024.
One issue that’s still a bit frustrating is the Sim Rate. It’s still broken, and many of the lights and systems that worked in 2020 aren’t working in 2024.
I hope that Microsoft will release a stable version of Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 before the end of 2025. It would be great to have a more reliable and enjoyable experience and not still have to count on 2020 for any real simulations.
Today MS 2024 is fine as a game but the simulation is still working better in 2020.
Wishing everyone a fantastic 2025!
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What are some examples of where the simulation in FS2020 is superior? I’m not saying it isn’t, I don’t know, just curious.
I’ll be flying FS2024 for all of 2025.
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I don’t understand all this hate for MSFS2024.
Yes. It does have a some issues:
- Blurry textures
- Sluggish menu
- Some VRAM issue (not for me)
- Some issues with LIDO/Navigraph
But for the rest I’m having a great experience. Performance is great and I had zero CTDs. No need to be so pessimistic. I believe that in 2/3 months MS2024 will be stable and a lot of issue will be solved. PMDG and all the good guys will port their aircraft over and everyone will slowly transition to MSFS2024
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I hope the team has success and they fix this sim, but take that list and multiply it by like 100. I feel like no one is bug free so you’re just naive and not noticing crazy crosswinds or not playing career.
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Some folks no doubt use the sim in ways where most of the stuff works pretty well. But there are a lot of ways to use the sim where it doesn’t work well. And if you’re one of the lucky ones that doesn’t experienced that, then it could be difficult to see where all this strife comes from. When you have career missions fail five times in a row due to issues in the simulator, it’s difficult to describe it as a “great experience”.
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I understand that. I don’t use career mode
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From my observations, FS24 is a glorified open beta. I’ve been watching the occasional video/stream here or there and I keep seeing so many bugs - graphical, system, simulation, etc. Time doesn’t synch right with simulation rate, real-time weather reports incorrectly, numerous aircraft have lighting/systems bugs or are just plain missing features. Thermals and turbulence are overpowered. Passengers frequently clip through the fuselage or load inverted/outside the plane. Career Mode is littered with bugs. Visuals load incorrectly, incompletely, or not at all.
The first few months of 2025 will be telling for me as to the future of FS24. I hope that Asobo gets it out of beta and into a release state. I hope they flesh out the SDK into a full-featured tool - that is absolutely vital to the continued growth of the community. I find myself saying the exact same thing I did when I played FS2020 at release: there is so much potential here, but it’s fully eclipsed by the bugs! I hope that MS/Asobo learn from their (repeated) mistakes and truly make 2025 the year of FS24.
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You sure beta ?..not alpha ? 
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Yes performance is great…about 30% less frames in VR ! 
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I don’t hate 2024. I just can’t load it so as to be able to play it. Other than that…
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It sure isn’t to me. I deleted msfs20 few weeks ago. Msfs24 despite the bugs already surpassed msfs20 for me. Smoother, sharper, looks better, much nicer clouds and level of clouds, lighting, flight model, better default planes (airliners for me). Much faster load, msfs24 brings more life. I don’t use career mode only mode I fly is free flight.
I’m on PC
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It simply amazes me how we can all have such different experiences using 2024, but that was also the case with 2020. My frame rates have gone up and are consistently higher than they were in 2020. I’m not a fan of most of the changes, but I’m just a free flight guy so I don’t need all the extra stuff they added in.
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44% of Steam reviews aren’t good. So many different types of issues that my bet is there’s an egotistical idiot exec that forced stupid decisions on great teams of people - in Asobo or maybe even MS that led to this initial product fail. Please give their journey to work a very long loading time, stream their salary and with the odd stutter tell them they’re f,f,f,fired.
I don’t think it’s hate, exactly.
After all the hype, the long wait for release, the fiasco of launch, and then the gradual realisation that not only problems from FS2020 were still present, but accompanied by many new ones, I don’t think you can blame anyone for being greatly disappointed.
Add to this the new UI (which is certainly not to everyone’s taste), the delay yet again of improvements in the ATC (and in fact it regressed), the broken planes, the problems in VR, the enforced use of DX12 (known to be excessively hungry for VRAM, affecting some more than others) etc - are you really surprised by the user-base reaction?
I’m not.
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My favorite part of 2020 were the bush trips which is my biggest disappointment with 2024 being absent. Also, some content ported forward but very little, also disappointing. The sim is underdeveloped from those perspectives. Why does it say coming soon, two months since launch? Where is the release schedule? I haven’t been able to find that published. I return to 2020 more than 2024. I open 2024 just to see if there are updates and that is about all.
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oddly enough, I reinstalled MSFS 2020 due to addon compatibility and bugs lol
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Some people get frustrated (even angry) when they buy something and their expectations aren’t met. Marketing handed out many expectations. We are reminded of them every time we launch the sim and see the beautiful cinematic.
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There’s also a kind of memory fixation happening. FS2020 never met some people’s expectations, and syllogistic logic is at work here. “Bugs were not fixed in FS2020, and there are bugs in FS2024, therefore bugs won’t be fixed in FS2024.”
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Some people can’t get past the terrible launch day problems.
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A lack of perceived value is another pain point for some.
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On the other side are people like you and me, who are having an overall good experience that in some ways exceeds what we had in FS2020. We’ve adopted a “wait and see” attitude with regards to the issues that remain - issues that you described perfectly.
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As for value, that’s up to each person to decide for themselves, and in fact is probably the main thing (along with dominant personality traits) that determines their reactions to the state of the new sim.
None of what I wrote really applies to those folks who are having major problems with CTD’s, broken career mode, VRAM (DX12 memory management) problems that make the game unplayable, etc. I empathize with them, and hope that not only can they figure out what’s causing them to have such a bad experience, but also that Microsobo quickly addresses and fixes some of the very real problems on their end.
Like you I have faith, and probably more patience than most. That’s our choice. Some have already given up. That’s their choice. Neither choice is wrong.
I hope that those who have offered constructive criticisms will be heard.
I hope that those criticisms remain constructive, and not destructive.
I hope that Microsobo listens, and continues to improve our beloved sim.
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I blame the lack of dev communication as another reason. Where I come from back in the day, devs were always communicating with users and it made a great gaming environment because whenever someone posts a bug, the devs not only tell them that they acknowledge it but also let them know the reason behind said bug and try to help the users on a workaround until said bug is patched which also lets them know why the bug is happening.
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I agree with the above comment.
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