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Are you using Developer Mode or made changes in it?
Using developer mode for other things. Did not touch the helicopters.
Have you disabled/removed all your mods and addons?
Yes and No. Tried both.
Brief description of the issue:
Flying in a Helicopter (G 2 and 407) the flight time is logged, but the landings are not counted. I took off from a helipad and landed on another helipad. I did not land on a runway during the flight. Airport was LSZH Zurich.
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The logbooks definition of take-offs and landings is not based on the plain âphysical realityâ ("ground contact = YES, xzy-speed = zero for duration T) but on meeting (a sequence of?) high level abstract objectives (did you taxi according to ATC, did you use the proper runway ⊠whatever).
Sadly it seems like Heli support did not result in a change of the logbook concept.
ATC automation also does not see the helicopter as âdownâ until you touch the skids to the runway. It gets irate if you start to taxi without doing that as well. Might also be connected to this detection behavior, or lack of.
I gave up on the logbook recently as it just stopped logging anything. I now use Volanta which is far better but naturally will not count towards âin-gameâ hours, but at least it works.
Doesnât developer mode being active normally prevent entries in the logbook, whatever the aircraft?
Maybe do a forum search of âlogbook developer modeâ. I suppose it is possible that this has now been changed, but i have yet to find anything that says it has.
OK, but the OP had answered âYesâ to the question about whether developer mode was or had been used, introducing an element of doubt as to whether the fault is just related to helicopters.
I have dev mode off, and all of my take off and landings are logged just fine, but as I said before, ATC has to see skids down to move to the next phase to contact ground to taxi, or to hold short and enter runway for takeoff
I also have dev mode off (only use it when checking CPU/GPU loading when messing with graphics settings), am going skids down on the runway, and getting ATC direction to exit next taxiway, etc. but donât believe I have gotten any landings logged in the helicopters so far. When I switch back to the F/A-18E or what not it seems to log normally.
Are you starting from cold and dark or on the runway? (Not sure why that would affect landings, but Iâm not sure what other variables are different. I usually start from the runway due to lack of time (in the helos it seems to put me at the hold short), but usually taxi back to the ramp when Iâm done with a flight.)
Interesting that your sim are logging the number of landings/take-offs. Are you on Xbox or PC?
My logbook is logging the âTimeâ but not the âNo of Landings/Take-offsâ
Where do you land in the airport environment? I land on helipads directly. No touchdown on runways. I land, shut down and when I switch the Master Off and then the flight summary appears. But 0 on the counts. Only time. It even picks up the ICAO code of the airports where I have flown.
But it should count no matter where you land. If I land in the forest or desert, every landing /take-off should be counted.
I also start mostly engines running ready for departure. However, after landing (on helipads) or even everywhere in the countryside, I shut down the engine.
Of all the helicopter flights I did, Dev mode Off, I still have 0 take-offs and 0 landings in helicopters.
There are other reasons why helicopter flights might slip through the net and Iâve possibly fallen foul of them myself, when getting told off by ATC for taking off without permission, probably due to not taxiing to the correct spot before takeoff.
I have been streaming a series where I am flying around the world in GA aircraft, no autopilot, just hops from airport to airport.
Part of my procedures, because of live streaming it, and running it at half tank of fuel max, so I have to land and top off from time to time to take RL bathroom brakes, so we âsimulateâ stopping off at different airports along the way.
I have had every landing counted, it either says the airport, or vicinity of, for the smaller airports where I find a patch of grass nearby out of the way (other people are following me during a stream, so making parking space)
I did notice on release day, I was getting thousand of touchdown notifications, likley because of touching or dragging with skids, but that has stopped, mayhap they put in a debounce limit for that?
I was messing around in Hawaii the other day, just weaving though buildings, dragging skids to run-on landings, and non of those counted though. Maybe stopping the motor is the key?
I should also add, for testing, I tried, cold startup, starting on runway, and starting midair, it is counting everything for me.
I also have an ongoing bug, because I play in VR, where after small updates OBS cannot capture the game, and it will not go into VR mode, and I have been having to delete my MSFS roaming file folder, which takes like 12MB of files to redownload, when in the past I had to completly redownload the entire sim. I wonder if I am correcting a corrupted file by doing that, and is effecting others in unknown ways too
I think since helicopters can land almost anywhere, it should not matter if ATC was used, or that proper startup/shutdown was made. Even if I land in the bush it should count as a landing.
For reference, I took off from LSXB in the Alps, flew around the helipad and landed again on another spot. The departure showed LSXB but the landing showed LSXB [Vicinity]. This heliport is unmanned so no ATC and it has a huge flat area where helicopters operate. Proof that the logging system does not work properly.
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