Well, thats the bad part of being sucked into this hobby. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts after you get to give it a whirl for a bit.
Bwahaha - that’s how this hobby is, or computer tech in general.
Update us how it goes when it is delivered.
Nice choice !!
Looks like a great monitor!
The only thing I am a bit concerned about, in retrospect, is burn-in.
I do use a Tobii, so my regular head motion does keep the displayed image pretty much in constant motion, but what about a long haul situation? I don’t fly them all that often, but if I turn off the head tracking and the cockpit remains stationary for an extended period how much of an issue is that going to be?
I guess, too, I need to be mindful of not getting distracted by this “in real life” thing and walk away from the system with the MSFS Home Screen left stationary for some extended period whilst I deal with whatever it was that I needed to deal with. This does happen for me, currently, as it is. Sometimes I come back to my PC and am a bit surprised I left it on.
I dunno how much of a thing the whole burn-in concern is, but it was mentioned.
Have you looked at the LG 48in OLEDs to see if they fit your corner spot?
If you’re worried about Burn In on OLEDs, Mini LEDs are a good alternative with close enough deep blacks. The latest models from HiSense and TCL are supposed to bring good improvements at a decent price point, but I have not seen any below 55".
Burn-in is real, but there are things the manufacturers do to alleviate it.
Pixel shifting, and automatic pixel refresh, for example. But the most important thing is to pay attention and not let a static image remain on the screen for hours a day over many days.
For example, I wouldn’t leave the dev mode menu on the screen during long flights.
You should be able to manually activate pixel refresh, and I’d get in that habit at the first sign of image retention. It will ‘scrub’ the pixels (for lack of a better word) and can help prevent burn-in. Check your owner’s manual for automatic pixel refresh settings. Many TV manufacturers run it automatically at every shutdown. If your Dell does, then I’d get in the habit of powering the monitor OFF when done flying for the day, so the refresh can run on a regular basis.
In a way, I did. A 49” ultrawide was recommended and there is just no way I could do it. My limiting factor is a sliding glass door to my desk’s left. If I rotate the desk to the left to make more room for the larger display to clear the wall to my right, it would protrude right into the path of the door.
I think a 40-42” would be as big as I could reasonably fit.
Looking at the peak brightness of that TV, I’m unsure if it would fully cure my HDR complaints.
The whole HDR “thing” is a bit of a frustrating mess for the layman. All sorts of displays are rated for HDR, but it is very clear (to me now) that there is a wide band of HDR performance characteristics that is hidden behind technical specifications that may not be immediately clear or understood by the layman. I had to learn this to understand why my current Asus display is blowing out the whites of the horizon with HDR on.
That is definitely happening already with my current setup.
Good info in your post. I downloaded the manual for the new display, so I’ll see what it has to say. Dell does have a warranty that specifically focuses on the burn-in, so I think they are confident about it being something that can be mitigated.
Samsung G9 49in dimensions 1194 x 404-528 x 236mm
LG C3 evo 48" dimensions 1071 x 618 x 46.9mm
So the LG is circa 4 inches less in width.
I don’t know of smaller OLED TVs from LG.
The thing with OLEDs in general is they are a better fit in a dim lit environment.
If so, they look gorgeous including for HDR content.
If your office space is surrounded by windows, you may be better off with Mini LED IMHO.
Most high end monitors automatically run a refresh cycle when powered off. Do not worry about burn in. I have had my OLED monitor for well over a year now and there is absolutely no sign of or any indication of image retention. Same goes for my OLED TVs.
I close the curtains when I sim, so that is not too much of a concern. Regarding the display size, it’s more about keeping the sim station from being too much of a monstrous presence in this room. You know, Feng Shui and all that jazz.
Thanks, that is good to know.
With the Alienware AW3225QF monitor you purchased, it should take care of all your HDR needs as it supports Dolby Vision. This is the latest and greatest HDR standard for which Win 11 even supports (probably not MSFS 2020 but perhaps MSFS 2024? ).
Found this info here on the web you might like to read regarding Dolby Vision and Win 11. I’m sure there is a lot of other info regarding this standard you can find on the web also.
Not sure if you are using the speakers on your old Asus monitor for audio? Just wanted to mention it as your new Alienware monitor does not have any speakers.
No worries as it just so happens your new kick a*s monitor supports the latest eARC and Dolby ATMOS audio standards to make it sound like you really are in that plane!!
There is an app on Win 11 that can enable it for any game, video player, etc that supports Dolby ATMOS - see here. Who knows, perhaps MSFS 2024 will support this audio standard as other MS games support it.
You would just need to purchase any new speakers/soundbar that supports Dolby ATMOS and use the HDMI connectors on your monitor to hook it up.
I just got a new soundbar for our TV in the family room which supports Dolby ATMOS and my wife’s jaw about dropped when she heard it!
Yeah, I’ve got a Klipsch sub and speakers, but the whole eArc integration has me “earballing” a speaker upgrade, now.
I’ll be looking into it.
Maybe to help with the “Is it? Is it not?” SU15 release, one of you could shed some light on the do I use HDMI or do I use Display Port? I was using the Display Port on the Asus for the 10-bit aspect.
Looking at the spec page for the display, it seems like its indicating that VRR only works with HDMI? Is that true?
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1x DP 1.4 (HDCP 1.4 & 2.3)(Supports up to 3840 x 2160 240 Hz, DSC, HDR)
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2 x HDMI 2.1 (HDCP 1.4 & 2.3)(Supports up to 3840 x 2160 240 Hz FRL, HDR, VRR as per specified in HDMI 2.1) (including 1x HDMI 2.1 FRL with eARC - to support Dolby ATMOS signal pass-through)
It also seems I might be an idiot:
- AMD Free-Sync™ Premium Technology: No
Does my RX 7900XTX support VESA Adaptive Display Certified sync or am I truly hosed on VRR with this display and my AMD GPU?
Man, do I wish ISO was up in this piece: Too many RGB accessories protocols, too many VRR protocols, too many HDR-esque protocols, etc.
Getting used to a curved display is harder than I expected. I got my Tobii mounted up, fortunately!
Here’s a little snippet from the web:
" AMD FreeSync is no different from VESA Adaptive Sync. It utilizes VESA’s royalty-free technology to sync the refresh rate to the FPS. It also works on most monitors, which keeps the prices down. However, AMD has left the framerate range in the hands of the manufacturers which reduces the usefulness of the sync technology."
I read that to mean "If you have VESA AdaptiveSync, you don’t need AMD FreeSync.
Also, “One advantage of DisplayPort is that variable refresh rates (VRR) have been part of the standard since DisplayPort 1.2a.”
According to the rtings website, the Dell Alienware AW3225QF (that is your monitor, right?) :
The Dell AW3225QF supports all common VRR formats over both DisplayPort and HDMI, including FreeSync, despite not having official certification from AMD. We didn’t experience any issues with G-SYNC over HDMI either, as it worked properly.
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Variable Refresh Rate: Yes
FreeSync Compatible: (Tested)
G-SYNC Compatible: (NVIDIA Certified)
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VRR Maximum: 240 Hz
VRR Minimum: < 20 Hz
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VRR Supported Connectors: DisplayPort, HDMI
NVIDIA | VRR Min | VRR Max |
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DisplayPort | <20Hz | 240Hz |
HDMI | <20Hz | 240Hz |
AMD | VRR Min | VRR Max |
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DisplayPort | <20Hz | 240Hz |
HDMI | <20Hz | 240Hz |
Your cable also needs to support DP 1.4 or HDMI 2.1 , as appropriate.
@BegottenPoet228 @SmotheryVase665 Thank you both!
Also there is really no need for VRR in MSFS if you configure your settings realistically for your system. It is great for introducing brightness flickering.