Help please: I'm desperate! FS2020, on my xbox, crashes after some seconds of boot

Hi guys again…unfortunately the deleting procedure of the reserved space didn’t bring any good result. The sim starts, gets to the main page and after some 30-60 seconds it freezes and goes back to xbox main page. After deleting the reserved space I even restart the console to make sure. Nothing happened!

This is indeed a very bad news because I’m afraid I will have to uninstall the whole game.

One question before deleting the game: is there a way to save the assignments? If I loose them when I reinstall the game it takes me weeks to reassign everything.

Thanks…

Michael

If you delete the game locally, your control profiles should be saved to the cloud and resynched when you reinstall it. I say should because this has been unpredictable for me. But it did work the last time I reinstalled, so maybe they’ve fixed it.

Have you checked to see if your Xbox has any dust in it? It’s possible it is over heating. You might want to unplug it for a while, then blow out the dust carefully…

In my experience with MSFS 2020 on Xbox X, when nothing else works, I found that a factory reset of the Xbox itself had the best results. But there are a few steps that are essential if you really want to do it correctly:

With MSFS some settings, including the controller bindings, that are saved in the cloud. If these settings were corrupted, then even erasing MSFS and reinstalling doesn’t fix it, because the corrupt settings come back from the cloud. (The corruption can occur if the Xbox runs out of memory at the wrong time, and ends up writing bad data, or overwriting something on disk…)

In that case, you would need to delete the Cloud Save data - which does reset your controller bindings and Log Book. It is like starting for the first time. To do it properly:

  1. With MSFS closed, on the main Xbox screen, highlight MSFS and press the Xbox button to “Manage game and add-ons”

  2. Go to “Saved Data” (the lowest tile on the right)

  3. Don’t click “Delete All” because even that doesn’t do it properly…

  4. Click on your Profile - that is your “Cloud Saved” data. Delete just that. When prompted, choose “Delete Everywhere”

  5. Then, delete the Reserved Space - this deletes all the downloaded content like World Updates, and any addons.


To reset the Xbox, it’s the same idea - some settings are saved in the cloud, and they too can sometimes be corrupted… To factory reset Xbox:

  1. Go to Xbox Settings > Console Info > Reset Console > Reset and Remove Everything

  2. When it finishes, you will set up the Xbox, by choosing your country and region, etc.

  3. When you sign in to your Xbox account it will offer to restore some settings from the cloud, choose “no thanks”

It does take some time to reinstall MSFS 2020, but I always had great results after a full reset like this, even if it was inconvenient to re-do the control bindings. For that, I made a list of everything I changed, so that next time I wouldn’t have to try to remember.

The only other advice, if you are going to reinstall World Updates, do them one at a time. I found that sometimes it would run out of memory and fail to install if I tried too many at the same time. Perhaps they fixed this, but I found it safest to be methodical.

Thanks again guys: you’re great!

As for dust, this is not the case because I cover the console, when off and cooled. In addition my Xbox has worked flawlessly up until now, in the same room.

There is a corrupt something for sure which prevents the sim to function. And since I have no way to determine what it is I will have to do a complete reset of everything, included the xbox. So thank you GimbalAxis for your guide.

Be aware that the Xbox can accumulate dust when it is running, so periodically it is worth checking for dust.

As for factory reset, the key part is to delete that MSFS Cloud Save data if you can!

Unfortunately it does reset your bindings, and log book, and statistics, but, it’s the only sure way to clear out corrupted data if that is in fact the cause…

I’ll check for dust for sure, but the crash seems totally independent from dust issues. In fact, in case of excessive dust the console would turn off, I guess. Instead, the console works flawlessly prior and after fs2020 crash.

Unfortunately I only have fs2020 installed so I cannot test try other applications to check if it is really a dust issue.

If reinstalling the game doesn’t help, I’m afraid the only option left might be to delete your cloud save data.

How to delete a cloud save on Xbox to fix some loading issues or reset the logbook

Thanks TenPatrol for your advice. Can it be possible that deleting the cloud saved data could fix the crash issue? Since I have to reinstall everything I might give it a try. One way or the other I will loose them…

Start by cleaning the console first – after years of use, some dust may have built up inside. Next, try reinstalling MSFS. Deleting the cloud save should only be considered as a last resort.

Guys…reinstalling right now!

Prior to deleting everything, even from things from cloud, I tried to delete al personal data from console and from cloud, the game crashed as before.

So I did go to the full wipe: game and resetting xbox from scratch. Wil, keep you posted…

Michael

P..s: xbox was super clean… :slightly_smiling_face:

THIS IS INSANE!!!

After a clean installation fs crashes again, in the same manner.

This is unbelievable…

Guys…why is that? I really don’t understand what’s going on. Could it be really the dust, which though, through the holes I don’t see? But if this is a temperature thing, would the console be on after the crash of FS? I suppose that the high temperature would turn off the console, right?

Overall, air is flowing very well from the top.

Help, help, help…!

Here’s a video of the crash. This time it doesn’t even get to the main screen.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/14wseADZvmbh_b6HLrgqcKhsPpwawQhX3/view?usp=drivesdk

That’s not a temperature issue. I’ve only had this once before; well actually twice but it was the same thing that had happened both times. The only thing is I don’t think I was getting as far as you got and my only solution was to delete my saved info from the Xbox and the cloud as a controller profile had become corrupt due to my occasional use of Xbox remote from my phone

But like I say, I’m not convinced mine got as far as yours and would basically CTD the second it finished with the checking for updates screen. But there shouldn’t be a need for a reinstall if you delete all reserved data and saved data. You’ll lose your hours but it’s the only way in

Well, since I had a free day, I did delete everything so to be sure…

The only thing that is sure is that fs crashes with no reason.

Since I have only fs installed on the xbox, I might try installing some sort of a game to check if it crashes.but this is absurd

How old is the Xbox? When MSFS loads, it does spike the processor, and thus the heat… wondering if maybe it could be thermal throttling, and the solution would be to take it apart and re-apply thermal paste. I remember watching a youtube video of someone doing that…

So the way to be sure - without having to open the hardware - would be to find some other game that is known to put a heavy workload on the Xbox. If it only happens with MSFS, then I’m not sure. My go to solution was to delete cloud save data, factory reset console, check for Xbox OS updates, and reinstall just the base MSFS 2020 without restoring preferences from cloud, no vpn, no peripherals, NO World Updates, City Updates or addons until I was certain the base sim was ok…

You said you deleted cloud save data - did you do it exactly as I described above? Don’t click “Delete All” in the the “Saved Data” page, you HAVE to delete just your profile for it to actually delete the cloud save - and you have to specify “Delete Everywhere.”

Adding this as a reminder
How to delete a cloud save on Xbox to fix some loading issues or reset the logbook – Microsoft Flight Simulator Support

I did exactly as you described…

Very odd… so maybe try another game that would be a heavy load to see if it’s just MSFS? Or… time to sell the xbox for a new one?

Forgot to mention: my Xbox is some 2 years old

Could it possible that this xbox is to be trashed? I cannot believe it

Mine is 2 years old as well and no such issues. Do other games work ok?