High End PC Low End FPS

I too do not have a high end GPU mine is a 1660 Ti…so it does make one wonder about spending the extra money…just sayin

like i said its only in this sim its not really making a difference other games it totally kicks ■■■!!

Do you have any other mods installed? I found huge FPS drops after I installed the Zion National Park scenery last night even with a top end PC.

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This is starting to worry me about getting a 3080. I just flew an approach to O’hare and didn’t go below 29 fps. I am running MSFS at Default Ultra 3400X1440, I set everything, such as traffic to default, but with Live traffic.

My Specs:

9900k @4800
32 gb @ 3400
1080 ti
Gigabyte Aorus Master, Bios F11c, Default bios Gaming profile
LG 3440X1440 monitor

Cinebench score, 4850

The 3080 is not the issue. I upgraded from a 1080 Ti and noticed significant FPS improvement in all aspects of FS2020 compared to the 1080 Ti.

No offense, how do you explain my 1080 ti getting 30fps (I got a low of 20 fps flying over the tower) on approach to O’hare vs your 3080 dipping to 20fps? Bad drivers?

I really want to know since I have been leaning on the F5 key for a month trying to get a 3080.

I have no idea. I would have to inspect your entire setup, resolution, plane selection, and other mods to understand. Also would need to confirm that you hold 30 FPS the entire time. I often get 30-40 FPS until just before touchdown where I dip between 20-30 FPS.

The absolute lowest I get is with the A320NX mod (latest developer version) over a premium airport and even that is 20FPS at the lowest.

Inspect my system? Are you doubting my claims? I could be that MSFS is not taking advantage of the 3080.

I hope someone else can chime in with a 3080 or 3090…Anyone?

I’m not doubting you at all. I would need to see your system settings to understand the difference.

It’s well documented that the 3080 has only minimal improvement in FPS over older series cards. FS2020 is a CPU heavy game which is why the improvements are minor. The resolution and settings play a big part in your upgrade experience as well.

That being said, I noticed on average 10-20 FPS improvement from the 1080 Ti to 3080. The biggest improvement is outside of big cities/complex airliners that demand high CPU usage.

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Again, here is what I am running:

I am running MSFS at Default Ultra 3440X1440, I set everything, such as traffic to default, but with Live traffic, no labels.

I’ve set everything to Default Ultra, and I am not running mods.

I don’t wish to be confrontational, I just want to get to the bottom of it. I want the 3080 or 3090 for Racing and Flight sims to use with VR
Things are not looking good so far.

My Specs:

9900k @4800
32 gb @ 3400
1080 ti
Gigabyte Aorus Master, Bios F11c, Default bios Gaming profile
LG 3440X1440 monitor

Cinebench score, 4850

So my 10700k is only OCed to 4.7ghz. I also run high refresh glass cockpit which is CPU demanding which might explain my lower FPS in CPU bottlenecked areas like KORD.

The A320NX mod takes another 5 or so FPS away due to the increased complexity that the mod provides.

That being said again the 3080 is not the issue. I have confirmed that with MSI Afterburner. It shows my 3080 running at 40-50% utilization even in cities like Chicago/LA.

Since VR is more GPU demanding (due to running two separate screens in the headset), I do expect the 3080 to shine whenever we get VR in FS2020. I too am looking forward to that.

If you want more data points, YouTube has a bunch of videos showing the 3080 on FS2020, but you won’t see significant improvements unless you are running at 4k or not flying in CPU demanding areas.

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Thanks for the additional info. Maybe VR beta will provide a clearer picture on that.

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Please don’t think I’m calling you out here but as a PC builder of over 20 years I’ve seen this happen a lot. Do have your monitor plugged into the graphics card itself and not the motherboard? This happens A LOT, hope you figure it out.

The manipulator times are high, which appears to be tied in with the discussions we’ve been having on AI SimObjects and their impact on performance and memory use. Do you have AI traffic set up, and what value do you have for the ground traffic, too? For an experiment turn off AI traffic and see how this impacts your FPS.

If you haven’t seen it, take a look at this thread.

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When I was testing this week, Ground AI was an insignifant factor in CPU Loading, and resulting FPS reduction. By far, the majority of the load in the CPU are the AI Planes, which over time, can accumulate to up to 1000 !! bring your system to a limited 10 fps stall.

Faster CPU may allow even more AI panes, before they limit when FPS get down to 10 fps.

The good news is that you can release that CPU load by “temporarily” manually removing the AI Planes –

  • Pause
  • Set AI Plane Slider(s) to 0
  • Save
  • Set slider(s) back up again ---- (maybe 25% = Initial 50 GA planes = Initial ?? Airlines)
  • Save
  • Un-Pause

After a time, you get really good at doing that really quickly !!

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You didn’t even read his post did you?
He’s being limited by his GPU (which is weird for a 3080), and mentions in his opening post that AI aircraft on or off make zero difference on his sim’s performance.

You have made your post, and it’s getting voted on. You don’t need to run around advertising for your thread on this subsection of the forum.

You do know the dev mode isn’t always accurate. Which one is more accurate the dev mode or what the task manager shows? Dev mode can tell you you’re GPU limited when in fact the CPU is to blame.I have noticed even when it tells me I am limited by GPU at big airports by temps on the GPU drops which is not always the case.
What is that telling you?
No one is advertising here. If you have add nothing fruitful to add to a thread move along or don’t comment.On my ignore list.

Your bottle necking that 3080 @ 3440x1440 monitor those 3080 were meant for 4k.

the OP literally stated that AI aircraft set on or off had zero impact on his FPS issue. So making a post about the influence of AI aircraft on CPU load (regardless of what the FPS meter shows) doesn’t add anything to this discussion.
Maybe you need to read OP’s first post as well?

That is highly possible. Not sure what the other guy is on about it being limited by GPU.3080 being made for 4k shouldn’t be limited by 1440p ultrawide