Honeycomb bravo not working correctly. Intermittent response from random controls that require you to unplug the usb from the hub and reconnect. It may take several attempts to get the bravo to respond. The lights flicker on all of the autopilot buttons with intermittent response. This needs to be corrected.
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Having the same problem. Have to reset the Alpha/Bravo unlimited amount of times to get Msfs2020 to finally recognize the controls. Then 'IF" it works the lights flicker constantly. This is definitely a Xbox MSFS2020 issue on there end.
I’ve tested the Bravo controls on a PC with MSFS2020 and everything works great, controls and lights.
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I always load the sim to the main screen with my alpha and bravo not connected to the xbox. Once on the main screen with the sim loaded I plug them into the xbox. This resolved all my issues with them working properly minus the flickering lights. Even the pc has to be setup for the lights to work correctly which isn’t available on the xbox
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Did your suggestion of powering the Honeycomb controls in after Sim start-up. It did help with the Sim recognizing the controls.
The lights still flicker but the autopilot buttons are still very hit or miss. Always a toss up on if they work properly.
When in menu options checking keybinding they work. Once in acft they become intermittent.
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YES. I noticed this also, in fact I bought a USB Hub with on/off switches for each port. And I don’t turn on the switches until after the sim loads. Or else the Bravo throttle won’t work, and the Control bindings won’t detect the input of the Toe Brakes from my Logitec Rudder Pedals. In addition I have to use my Keyboard the same way or else nothing will work when I get to the “Press any Button to Begin” screen or some keys such as ESC or SPACE BAR won’t work.
As for the flickering lights on the Bravo, this didn’t start until SU 15.
I have made the practice of disabling all autopilot bindings from the Bravo and only use the autopilot in the virtual cockpit. Because occasionally I find that they conflict with the Autopilot controls within the aircraft. For example any aircraft with a Gyropilot doesn’t work well with the Bravo autopilot controls.
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I was looking at the Turtle Beach VelocityOne yoke+throttle vs Honeycomb, in the end I chose the VelocityOne and don’t have any of the issues you are experiencing with the Honeycomb. I’m glad I made this choice now plus the fact I doubt I would of gotten the Honeycomb order based on the challenging situation the company is in. To me this seems like a driver problem rather than a sim issue.
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Yep definitely a driver issue on Xbox. I use the same Honeycomb controls for my PC and I don’t have those issues.
I own both the Velocity One and Honeycomb, and despite those short comings the Honeycomb is still of a much higher quality and capability than the Velocity One.
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Do you have autopilot bound to more than one switch?
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No, I don’t have anything bound to any autopilot buttons/switches. Just the Bravo. As TJTurner said, I also have a powered USB Hub where I can simply push a button for on/off. Works much better and easier on the USB ports.
I use velocityone rudder pedals with zero issues in the sim. Only the Honeycomb Bravo has the issues in MSFS2020.
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I did order the MIAP 24 from Axiar. Compatible with PC and Xbox. It keybind under the keyboard in controls. Has everything you’d need from autopilot to comms. I’ll use that instead of the Bravo autopilot buttons.
Maybe this can all get sorted out soon and addressed. Here’s to hoping Msfs2024 doesn’t have this problem since it’ll be made from the ground up for Xbox instead of ported version.
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Hi all,
do you use the Xbox controller alongside your other equipment?
Two of my peripherals also have Xbox controls so I never use the Xbox original controller which means that at least one of them must be active to be able to start the sim.
I am using a USB keyboard, a USB trackball, a MIAP Pro 24, a TB flightstick with TB rudders plugged in and a HC Alfa XPC with Bravo attached.
The Xbox has problems to properly recognise this bunch of peripherals. I almost never get past the “press any key” screen.
So I have adopted a routine to make sure everything is OK. After switching on the Xbox I turn on the controllers one by one via the USB hub. Then I start the sim and if I can’t get past the “press any key” screen I turn the HC kit off and then back on and the start continues.
Before creating a flight I go to Options—>Control Options. I click into “Search By Input” and press a button on one of the devices. If it shows up OK I click there again and press a button on the next and so on. If any button doesn’t show up I use the switch of the respective device on the USB-hub to turn it off for a moment and then on again and repeat the test. The whole process takes about 15-20 seconds and then I create a flight.
I have never had any problems in flight since using this method.
Regards, Frank
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To be more specific. I do have a mouse and keyboard active on the Xbox dashboard. I use the keyboard to start the sim. However once the sim is launched I turn the keyboard off again until I reach the Press and Button to Begin screen to get past it. And I don’t turn on the Honeycomb equipment until I reach the main menu. I only use a Xbox controller for slewing and panning around the airport.
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Ah… I see, thanks TJ. I never thought about using the keyboard and the mouse doesn’t work on the UI of the Xbox OS. I’ll try that.
Regards, Frank
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My bravo quadrant doesn’t work, no matter what I do. I noticed in July that that gear lights and annunciator lights stopped working and that ever now and again I would need to disconnect the quadrant and reconnect to get it to work.
Today I go to use the throttle and it doesn’t work at all. I have disconnected/reconnected all the components (Alpha Yoke, Bravo throttle, XPC hub) in various orders, connecting direct to the Xbox via the 3 usb ports, via different configurations of the USB hub I’ve been using for over a year since I got my rig.
Nothing is working and I feel as though I am out of options.
Are there any diagnostic tools that can be used to determine if the XPC hub or the throttle or the yoke are compromised?
Pretty frustrating after investing $800 CDN in this rig and having no resources to help determine how to proceed with a fix.
I have read as many threads as I can find and none of the advice has provided a remedy to my issue.
Has anyone else had any success or failure that sounds like my situation?
I sent an email off to Honeycomb customer support to see about warranty (it came with a 2 year limited warranty, after all, but I don’t expect to hear back from them).
Anyway, if anyone has any additional advice, I’d love to hear it.
Thx
I haven’t been able to find a solution to make the throttle detectable so I went out on a limb to see what would happen if I reached out to Honeycomb Support. With their struggles recently, I wasn’t hopeful that I would get a response.
To my great surprise, their support manager returned my email in less than 24 hours and has referred the issue to their technical partner, Aerosoft (where Honeycomb products continue to be sold). The support manager indicated, because of demand, the technical team may take up to 12 days to make contact.
So now the clock starts and I will see what happens. In the mean time, I will see what else I can do to determine if the issue is hardware or software related (SU15 or Xbox drivers).
If anyone has any other suggestions or experiences with recovering their throttle please feel free to share.
Thx
Do you have a pc to try it on? That way you can go into game controllers and see what the axis and buttons are doing.
I don’t have a pc handy at the moment or I’d have tested there to see if it’s a hardware or software problem. I used to think it was SU15 but after it stopped working the other day, it’s starting to feel like a hardware issue.
Hopefully I’ll have access to a PC in a week or so, so I’ll have to be a bit patient until then.
I’m still waiting to see what Honeycomb/Aerosoft have to say about it all…
Thanks for the advice 
No worries under game controllers you can see exactly what happening with the throttle and yoke even miss aligned calibration. Flight simulator just uses this so interprets whats happening in Windows.
Thanks @zooze74!
Years ago I switched over to Mac (to get away from being the family Windows help desk, haha!) but it’s times like this that I need to have a PC again. And as much fun as I am having using the flightsim on the Xbox, I’d like to have a fuller experience so I’m pricing out PC components to build a new rig.
Thanks again for the advice!