well, dunno what to say. If your RAM makes your system crash at its rated XMP profile, that would indicate a problem with the RAM. Don’t know you’re still under warranty on those sticks.
If so, return them and get a replacement.
If not, you’re out of luck, and running them at slower speeds might be what you’ll have to settle at.
Not sure how much of a performance impact it has on an intel platform. I know it’s significant on a Ryzen platform.
What I saw immediately that are going to kill your frame rates are object and terrain LOD plus the shadow settings. I would start by setting Object LOD to 100 and all shadow settings to the next level below 2048 plus contact shadows to high. It may create a slight blur to the shadow outlines, but does it matter if you get more frames? Move reflections to high. You are not going to notice the difference in reflections.
See how many frames you pick up with those changes. If you want more, then move the Terrain LOD to 100 and you will see a bump in frames.
With a i9-9900 and a 2080Ti, you can’t run everything at full settings and expect to get a high frame rate. There are people with i9-10900 and 3090 that are CPU-bound with all ultra settings.
For perspective, I’m running an older i7-6700 with 1080Ti at 45-50 fps. Some of my settings are at utlra and all others are at high. All of my LODs are at 100. With the proper expectations and settings, you should be running 50+ fps with an i9 and 2080Ti.
Use the default settings and see what you get. You can’t max out a lot of stuff. For me my defaults are mostly on high which gives me around 50fps in most all situations
The desired result should be a smooth experience. Don’t fall for 60FPS as being some kind of benchmark for a flight sim.
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I posted this way back in August during launch week.
TL;DR “You can also pretty much forget about 60 fps at maxed-out settings on today’s hardware.”
And he’s updated the article since then with later GPU developments.
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Under the games tab in settings,
there is tick box under Optimal Playable Settings that “Automatically optimize newly added games”.
From my experience, do not tick that.
Otherwise, Geforce Experience is handy for keeping your driver updated.
This is the only issue I have msfs 2020.
This is an awesome sim scenery wise, but the FPS especially in the cockpit of the Airbus and other Jet Aircraft is poor even on a good system. It really takes away the experience and leaves you frustrated.
Surely they can fix the FPS issue inside the cockpit. Outside of the cockpit is fine except for some small stuttering from time to time.
Yes, XMP on, Game boost OFF
(mobo is a MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Edge AC)
CPU is running at 4.6 GHZ at the moment.
Ram is running at 3200Mhz
GFX running at around 1860mhz for GPU and 15500mhz for mem.
In MSFS I did have the following set lower than you:-
AA: DLAA
Render Scaling: 100
Terrain LOD: 150
With EVERYTHING set to Ultra: Over Manhattan again, FPS was about HALF what I previously reported, for very little visible improvement IMO. So slower than yours.
Things I tried: (using Scattered Cloudy conditions - clear skies are faster btw)
Render Scaling to 150 (this gave me an immediate boost) to 30fps.
Setting it back to 100 puts me almost back to where I was in the last post. 45 - 50fps over Manhattan
These other things can be reduced with little or no obvious visual effect for the gain of a few extra fps:-
Grass & Bushes: To HIGH or lower. No gain in the air AFAIK.
Motion Blur Low: This isn’t Gears of War!
Depth of Field Low: ditto.
Contact Shadows: High
Ambient Occlusion: High
I certainly broke 60+fps in Kansas with clear skies with these settings and all the important stuff was on on ULTRA.
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35 is great. I am just getting a feel for how good I can get my settings. I do get some stutters over cities so i figure a 10FPS bump would help. Thanks
One of the temporary fixes for these crashes / ctd’s was to turn off XMP in the BIOS. I have Corsair RAM and knowing little about RAM, I am just following what I am reading. Thanks
well, just keep in mind if your RAM isn’t running at its advertised XMP profile, you’re leaving performance on the table. Sounds like cause for a replacement if it’s still under warranty.
Thanks for the info. I have dropped everything back to HIGH END from ULTRA and am not on CUSTOM graphics in the menu. I will see how this performs and respond. The main thing I am dealing with now is the CTD’s. No rhyme or reason for the crashes.
Ok great. If I can get 35 I will be happy.
Just a point on the RAM XMP discussion. XPM does NOT guarantee you can hit that rated speed. It depends on many factors regarding the CPU and motherboard.
I have 4 x 8Gb sticks rated at 4266 which will not run above 4000. 2 sticks will run at 4266 but the motherboard won’t run with the extra 2 at 4266.
There are many tweaks of voltage than can be tried however it’s time consuming to get a stable system that will run at maximum speed.
Most motherboard manufacturers have specific RAM compatibility details and most of them only cover 2 sticks of memory.
My point being just because you can’t get memory to run at full XMP speed doesn’t mean it’s faulty or would be covered by an RMA.
fair point, but there’s a difference between RAM with an XMP profile of 3200 / 3600MHz (which motherboards that have that memory on their QVL list should support) and going higher range like 4000+ MHz.
If the RAM is rated on for that XMP profile, and that RAM is listed at those speeds on the QVL list for the motherboard, it should hit those speeds, and if not, should qualify for an RMA.
Most of those sticks have a base of 2366 MHz or somewhere in that range, and that’s a lot of performance to leave on the table (a lot bigger of a difference between 2366 and 3600, than between 4266 and 4000).
Exactly ! Enjoy the sim with what you have without worrying about FPS. As long as it works fine. I think I have a pretty good system but have never checked what FPS I am getting. as long as it performs smoothly. I don’t care what FPS I get.
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Totally agree if it’s on the motherboard Qualified list at the capacity being used and it fails, either it’s a motherboard / CPU issue or a RAM problem. Determining which for an RMA is where the difficulty arises.
I know from experience getting a memory supplier to accept an RMA for memory that won’t run at full XMP speed is a challenge.
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2 choices: Buy a smoking computer (more smoking than the one you already have), or turn down your settings.
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I have a 9900K/3090 setup running 4K/high and the only time I can get above 60 fps is with small planes such as Cessna 152 (I see up to mid 70s in the tutorial missions). With more complex airplanes, the CPU becomes a bottleneck causing FPS drop into 50s or even lower, while the rtx3090 still shows great frametime in the green zone on the graphs. Overclocking the 3090 can give me extra 4-5 fps but not in the CPU limited scenarios.
My CTD was caused by FSA’s IFR tutorial missions not being up to date. Make sure your community mod files are up to date.
I think that for people like me, although I can easily build systems like the one I have now, the fine details of how all this fits together can easily swamp the brain. Therefore I, for the most part try to stay away from anything that might be a system killer. ie: voltage changes etc. Having an APP that can give you a “one-click” boost to your system is ideal for me. I use Dragon Center which boosts me up to about 4.8 on my 3.6 i9-9900KF. This gives me about 10 more FPS in MSFS. I COULD take the time to learn about pushing the limits but for now, I will be happy with a stable system. Cheers guys.