ATC told me to go to FL190..OK then..Full Power..Climb 500 FPM.. And i leaned the whole time for max Power.
But at like 17.000 i begin to go very slow..reduced FPM to 100. But still no way to FL190.. AT 17500 i stalled, then crashed in the Sea :()
So how to get so high?
Accept the instruction, then request lower. 19k is way above where you’re normally going to find a Cirrus, not sure on the ceiling by the book for that plane, but nobody would be up there with one.
Normally piston singles are 12k and lower, sometimes 15ish if equipped with supplimental oxygen and maybe turbo or supercharged, but generally not much above that…
Per Cirrus, the max operating altitude is 17,500’ ASL. ATC has no way to take the type of aircraft into account. It just does whatever it feels like. When I was told last year to take the C172 to FL210, I quit trying to fly IFR. It was the last straw - the time before that, I was on approach to KMYR. ATC vectored me out over the ocean and forgot about me. I was 20 miles out when I said “(forget) this,” cancelled IFR and headed back in on my own.
Really… 17500ft wasn’t enough to get out of a stall?
In all seriousness though, i think if you make a ifr flight plan in the world map you can manually change your desired cruise altitude. Atc will respect this.
Thats one heck of a stall!
Just let go of your controls and the plane will get out of the stall itself.
Btw this is not an bug. It’s just a limitation in the capability of the atc/flight planning. Just remember to set your cruise altitude to something suited for your aircraft when making an IFR flight plan. Then atc will tell you to climb to your set altitude.
When you create a flight plan it is important to select airways or routes that do not have a minimum altitude restriction that exceeds your aircraft capabilites. It is good practice to check the navlog before heading to the airport. Check the cruise altitude and confirm there are no route sections that bust your ceiling.
In general, avoid using Hi Altitude Airways in GA aircraft. Check something like Little Nav Map (free app, awesome and well worth getting) for any altitude restrictions when planning a GPS flight. ATC will tell you to climb to the minimum altitude appropriate to the route, not the aircraft (a default ATC shortfall). The only defense against ATC’s stupidity is proper planning.
FYI, usually, if ATC assigns an altitude, in the sim, you can request a lower altitude but they will reply with, “Roger, climb to [previous instruction], Expect *[requested altitude]”. Simply, you are screwed if you can’t get to the assigned altitude first.
Yep. I would bet many “bugs” are actually “pilot error”… Which makes it hard to see if it’s a real bug or people doing something that wasn’t supposed to be done.
Sounds like you entered a spin condition.
I take back my words about getting out of a spin in the cirrus. Just did some stalls and you really need lot’s of rudder input and power to get out of a spin. It’s certaintly a lot harder then in the cessna’s!
Well.. Lessons learned
Has the ATC logic been changed? Previously you had to actually reach the altitude that ATC demand before they will grant a lower altitude.
Cirrus has a parachute for a reason.
I can’t believe this actually got programed into the game.
As mentioned above…
Well the maximum altitude the SR22 can go is 17500 feet, according to Cirrus. I managed to get the SR22 up to FL200 yesterday, but that was a STRUGGLE. I normally cruise at FL100-FL120 and it works just fine.
FYI the mixture control does almost nothing. It’s either full rich or off.
The SR22 recovers from a spin with the same control inputs like most other GA aicraft.
The chute has nothing to do with this.
@omarliew if you need to apply power to get out of the spin then the MSFS is way off.
That said spins in e.g. the 172 are unfortunately more unrealistic than they used to be until a few updates ago.
Hmm, I was flying yesterday a relatively short hop from EFHK to ULLI in TBM930 and had actually planned FL250. I got to 13000ft and requested FL230 from the ATC for my next step climb, when I noticed that actually my current FL was pretty neat for cloud sight seeing, flying between two layers. So I requested to stay at 15000ft (as I had already started the climb) and was promptly granted it.
Yeah some of the spins where easy to recover from but some required full power to get the rudder and elevator to work.
So far this is the only aircraft in the sim where i wasn’t able to recover from a spin. Also it’s much more unpredictable in how it will behave in a stall.
I can’t remember exactly how the 172 behaves in stalls many updates ago, but at this moment it feels to uniform. Basicaly the same thing happens every time. As with other aircraft. Some will drop their nose and remain stable, other wil do half a spin and recover basically by themselves.
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