CR.HT uses a radio altimeter to measure height. It is designed for relatively flat surfaces like the ocean or a lake. If you have rough terrain like a big statue in South America, it is not the best option. Or mountainous terrain like the Alps.
V/S on the other hand uses a change in air pressure to determine if you are climbing or descending. It is great for climbing away or descending at a certain rate. I agree it is a better option here than CR.HT.
ALT mode uses a pressure sensor and is not affected by the change of the terrain below you. I would recommend using ALT instead of V/S. In ALT mode the beep trim (ALT+ or ALT-) on the collective will command altitude changes. I use it to land the H160 on the autopilot.
BTW if you use the Go Around (GA) function in the H160 the default rate of climb is around 800ft/min which I find a bit aggressive. Almost immediately after GA you can reduce the V/S with the beep trim on the collective (VS-)
Same with the automatic take-offs. It climbs slowly to the TDP. You can adjust the rate there with the V/S beep trim as well.
That āmanual collectiveā bug information is really helpful. Thanks.
Iāve checked and itās also present on (at least the latest build of) the H145.
I should have looked at ALT mode more carefully but I didnāt because VS was working for me round the Christ the Redeemer statue.
Also because my bindings for Collective Beep Trim Up and Down are problematic: the Down switches on both my Warthog throttle (poor thing is now seven years old and has had a hard life) hat switches are dead, meaning that both my Up and Down Collective Beep Trim switches are in fact Up switches, leading to a potential for confusion which I was a little interested in avoiding if possible.
And in later testing, I found I could adjust the height of my helicopter more precisely using VS than Alt + Collective Trim.
But.
I had no problems flying round Christ the Redeemer using VS, but further testing at my home airport revealed that VS would suddenly change to ALT for what at first seemed to be no apparent reason.
However, dumb as I am, and after wasting an embarrassing amount of time testing alternative explanations, I finally noticed that the move from VS to ALT was happening as I descended through 150 ft radalt. Try descending below that height using VS Down and the autopilot will switch you into ALT mode. You can engage VS below that height and use it to ascend, but if you try to descend youāll be switched to ALT.
Which limits the use of VS for floating round POIs that are, in part at least, closer to the ground than 150 ft, and means that I shall have to scrounge up a few more brain cells to help me remember which hat switch to push up when Iām changing height - sorry, altitude - in ALT mode.
Edit: Further testing has shown that VS stops descending and switches to ALT when it comes down to 150 ft on radalt even when itās the only upper mode engaged. Refusing to go below 150 ft seems to be its default behaviour.
Yes, the V/S switches to ALT round about 150 feet. It is very handy when you fly an ILS. The helicopter is going to level off by itself for you to decelerate over the runway. If you beep the ALT down a bit on the collective you can get closer to the runway.
I love flying an ILS on RWY16 at Zurich. You can zoom at 120+kts over the threshold, decelerate and then turn right to the helipads. Now I donāt have to worry flying into the runway since the H160 levels off for you. What good service you get.
Great chopper. Lovely flight characteristics, well worth the purchase.
I did have a couple of crashes though, when landing on a runway. There is a certain parameter that I am exceeding but I wouldnāt know which one.
My vertical speed is quite low so I donāt think that is the problem. My forward speed is around 30 knots. Is that too fast maybe? Or is something else entirely, like the attitude? Do you need to be quite flat?
The only disadvantage of HPGās great Discord channel is that there is hardly any discussion here in the forums about their wonderful helicopters
But the H160 is already showing up on a number of top 10 lists. It really is an amazing machine, perfect for VIP transports to impress your billionaire buddies. The H145 stays on top for HEMS missions, because of its smaller size and agility. So great to have them both
On my system, the H145 is just about ok performance-wise in VR. Hoping for the H160 to improve my fps but can anyone using VR give any input on how it compares?
It is a helicopter not a plane
Helicopters would not typically land on a runway they would come to a hover and hover taxi to a parking space or depending on airport just fly and land at parking space. i would say 30 knots is very fast 2 or 3 knots max i would say
That is correct, although for larger helicopters I have heard that hover taxi is not always appreciated since it creates a lot of wind forces that can cause visibility issues or damage to smaller planes.
It turned out to be the forward speed. IRL you should be able to land it at that speed, but practically - and in the sim - you need to be very slow, a hover basically, and then set it down.
yeah some of the big mils like puma and super puma and the big sikorskys will often taxi on their wheels but donāt land at 30 knots which is really quite fast thatās 34 mph that is above speed limit on city roads
Yes. My son was Crew Chief on CH-53s. Sometimes the pilot let him have the controls. He would descend reducing speed, touch down and continue forward on the wheels. No real hover as I understood. More like a fixed wing landing. Of course the pilot always had his hands ready to take over. I think he flew the āDā, but still, thatās a big bird.
Hehehe I was quite shocked to see a helicopter (in RL) use a runway for takeoff. It only rolled only a few meters and buzz off into the air.
It is done for performance reasons. The extra lift over the rotors due to the forward movement makes a difference. And in the case of an engine failure you will have lots of options in front of you.
25 knots is the maximum speed for taxiing and intentional rolling landings on the H160.
yes transitional lift and requires less power than to go into a hover first although its usually only larger helicopters which do this and depends on airport/heliport.
More i fly this the more iām finding issues and weirdness some not even in the sim
why is there no H160 section on the discord
2 why is there no H160 manual it just opens up the 145 manual
3 where is the landing light on/off switch in the cockpit
4 why does a 25 knot wind keep rotors turning so fast rotor brake is ineffective and you can hear engine sounds ā¦ if you change wind to low and stop rotors and apply rotor ties switching back to high wind throws the ties off ( bad ties) and rotors spins right up
5 rotor brake seems very weak infact doesnt seem to work at all im some situations
im at a 10 not wind currently rotors wont stop and i can hear system sounds even though everything is off
