I don't get the obsession with stall behavior

[CaptainRude91]

@wazitdoinnow

Stranger still - the current PPL - or NPPL - in the UK - does not include any Power Off Stall Training.
We don’t go there. We train Pilots not to either.

I’m sorry but I don’t believe this, I will look up some more info but the UK CAA traditionally has been more strict than EASA, and in EASA we do all of those for PPL or LAPL.

@wazitdoinnow

Just in case anyone’s looking at this thread while doing a spiral dive;

• (Mimi’s) Throttle To Idle
• Controls To Neutral
• Opposite Rudder To Spin Direction
• Pick The Speed Up out of the dive and effect the Recovery of Airspeed until Straight and Level.
• Change Underpants. (If practical given cockpit size)

That’s NOT a spiral dive recovery procedure! If you don’t understand the difference between a spin and spiral dive than either: 1. You are not a pilot or 2. The level of training in UK is really dreadful.

Edit: not performing power off stalls in UK is baloney, as can be seen, its a required item on the skill test. I quote:

• Turns, including medium (30° bank) turns, steep (45° of bank) turns and steep turns in a gliding configuration (SE aeroplanes only), plus recognition and recovery from a spiral dive; the examiner may put the aeroplane into a spiral dive with speed increasing then hand control to the applicant to initiate appropriate recovery action. Generally, this should be to straight and level flight with the emphasis being on avoiding excessive loads on the airframe, particularly any tendency to roll and pull simultaneously.
• Flight at critically low airspeeds with and without flaps.
• Recognition and recovery from stalls. A series of stalls will be required, and the examiner will brief the sequence of these both pre-flight and in the air.

1. Normally the first stall will be in the clean configuration, entered from straight and level flight, with the throttle(s) closed. The applicant is to recover on his own initiative when the aircraft has reached the stalled flight condition1.
2. The second stall will be from an approach configuration, with approach flap setting gear down and low power. The stall should be initiated from a turn (level or slightly descending with about 20 bank) and the applicant should recover at the first indication of a stall.
3. The third stall will be in the landing configuration with full flap, gear down, and low power. The stall should be initiated from straight flight in a slight descent as if established on final approach to land (i.e. not climbing); the applicant should recover at the first indication of a stall2.
4. All recoveries shall be made with the minimum loss of height and returning to a clean, climb configuration at maintaining directional control, or to level flight as otherwise directed by the examiner.

https://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/Standards%20Document%2019(A)%20v9.pdf

@Stearmandriver2

This is incredible.

Yes, and not true as can be seen above.