For reference, i am a complete newbie so this question might come off as ignorant but figured this would be a good place to ask. For reference I have the logitech x52 stick. When landing the Airbus, do i need to use the ILS to make a smooth landing? Everytime I try to land manually, without autopil…

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I was agreeing with you. I was just adding the color since you were asked about using AoA to hit the airspeed. My flight operations experience is wholly within the US, so I’ve learned not to paint too wide of a brush in case it’s taught differently elsewhere.

[image] PZL104: I’ve mentioned the AoA only to find out how to establish the correct speed. That’s if there is an AOA gauge in the cockpit? I don’t know about Boeing, but in an Airbus fly-by-wire aircraft there is no AOA indicator for the pilot.

Both, Boeings and Airbuses can display the FPV (flight path vector) which makes it easy to read the AoA directly on the PFD. Why do you need an AoA gauge to find out what the AoA is? Again, 3° GS + 2° pitch = 5° AoA.

[image] PZL104: Again, 3° GS + 2° pitch = 5° AoA But that equation won’t always work ie. if you are hand-flying the plane and therefore you can’t be certain you’re actually doing a -3deg GS!

This has nothing to do with hand flying. If you stay exactly on the glideslope you are descending at a 3° angle.

[image] PZL104: If you stay exactly on the glideslope Unless you see the PAPI lights in the distance, how do you know that you are on a -3deg glideslope?? There is a vertical profile graph display in the A350 cockpit to tell you that information, but NOT in the A320.

That’s why I mentioned in my initial reply that it’s helpful to use the ILS, especially for newbies. If you don’t see the PAPI and there’s no ILS GS, you simply use the standard calculations. Distance x 3 = Altitude Ground speed x 5 = Rate of descent Again I’ve mentioned the AoA only to find out…

Don‘t overthink the pitch, AOA and GS. When you approach with a 20 knots headwind your ground speed is slower and the geometry doesn‘t match anymore. You‘ll fly with a smaller rate of descent on the 3deg glide slope but the same airspeed.. in consequence you‘ll have a higher pitch. Fly the speed, ho…

A 20kts headwind component reduces the ROD by ~15% at 150kts…which means an increased pitch attitude of ~0.2°. I’d say that’s within the ~ +2° pitch attitude ballpark😉

Lol yep, but not 2 deg anymore :stuck_out_tongue: I know what you mean, I‘m with you here. The 2 degrees nose up result in the correct config and speed. But you can‘t read 2 degrees or 2,15 degrees from the artificial horizon and they don‘t bother you at all when you‘re flying. What bothers you is …

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