Ils with co-pilot on

Had a question, if your doing a ILS Approach and the Co-pilot takes over for landing do you need to turn the APPR along with the ILS or just the ILS as the Co-pilot is in control?

I have never had the co-pilot take over a landing.

Must be nice when you can get it.

Edit:
I always arm APPR.

While this doesn’t directly address your question, ILS with APPR obviates the need for copilot landing, as that setup basically lands the plane for you on its own as long as everything is set up correctly first (autobrakes, flaps, landing gear, etc.). I usually take over just before landing, but the plane will usually land itself at that point if you want it to.

2 Likes

Don’t use them at the same time. You’ll end up Co-pilot and the aircraft fighting each other for control.

Use one or the other. If you want the co-pilot to take control for landing, make sure everything is turned off, no Auto-pilot, no flight directors, no heading or Nav mode. Give full control to the Copilot so they can fly the plane without having the plane fighting him.

Or, if you want the aircraft to manage the approach, turn off the co-pilot control and let the aircraft do the approach for you.

What about the ILS does that stay on with the Co-pilot? Or is that off too?

Turn off ILS too, like I said, Copilot has its own mind, you don’t want the aircraft to follow the ILS while the Copilot is fighting it using its own glideslope.

You can keep the ILS indicator ON only for reference, but turn off the AP and APPR mode so that the aircraft isn’t trying to “follow” the ILS.

1 Like

I assume that goes for RNAV approaches also?

Yes. Disengage the NAV and AP on RNAV approaches.

Basically no autopilot and its subsystems should be turned on when you give your Co-pilot control of the aircraft. Your aircraft needs to be in Fully manual mode for the Copilot to fly the aircraft properly.

1 Like

With these Assisis turned off, there is still a co-pilot waiting to grab your plane?

With all due respect, learn to do it yourself. It will be rough for a while, but the satisfaction in learning how to do it “right” and “buttering the bread” on a landing are sooooooo worth it.

Just curious, why do people use the co-pilot? Seems to defeat the purpose of the sim. Dunno

If they only want to be a passenger I think. Sightseeing without having to need to look at instruments to make sure the aircraft doesn’t crash as you look at the views.

3 Likes

So I had another question if I taxi and take off myself and fly to my destination how do I shut off just the Co-pilot landing assists that comes on and automatically takes over whether I’m in a ILS OR RNAV landing etc?

I think you’re confusing the assists with each other.

Your General Assistance Options is the little assists that the sim helps you out when you’re flying yourself. They’re not AI-powered. So you can just turn off the Landing assists here without affecting how the AI Copilot control behaves.

AI Copilot is a self-contained assist. It takes over your aircraft entirely. Regardless of whatever assistance you set in your general assistance options. So whether you have the Landing assists on or off. Or even if you set all your general assists options to Hard/True to Life. If you give your AI copilot control, it will land the plane for you.

So if you want to fly ILS or RNAV approaches yourself, you need to make sure you turn off the landing assists in General Assistance (since that assists also fights against the actual ILS or RNAV approaches) then make sure your AI Copilot control is also turned off.

1 Like

Maybe they use the free time to do a cabin service simulation (serving a cold beer or two)

2 Likes

So right as the glide slope lines came on and landing asst took over. I shut everything off like you said and the first airport I landed at was as smooth as butter. The second airport I tired it was so off before the runway. Don’t know what happened?

Turn off Assisted Landings if you don’t want it.

Just cut the AP at 400 feet or lower and glide in.

I wanted the asst, but didn’t understand why one airport was fine and when I went to another airport it was way short of runway

It is like that with FS2020.

ASOBO just doesn’t have it ironed out yet.

That is a lot of Nav Data and lots of critical & complex calculations.

And, I apologise. I didn’t read back upward to the previous posts.
Thus, dumb reply.

It’s ok, I do manual lands too but get lazy lol to be honest…

1 Like