Implement in-sim METAR according to Live Weather

What about using the PDF key on the G100 and then the WIND button? There are three options to display wind.
I know that is not wide coverage but hope that helps.

METAR info ins’tjust wind info, you need ceiling, visibility.
Maybe you can have wind calm at 0kts, but overcast at 100 ft and/or visibility at 50 mts. on at CAT 1 airport, so that airpor is under min.
For that reason is important to know the METARs when you go to an airport.
Thanks btw

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Aye, Keptin! I understand.

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Real time weather (METAR based), NOT model data should be implemented while at the airport. This should be merged with the existing WX engine.

Hi folks!

When using Live Weather, it’s quite disappointing not to have a clear weather picture available, along planning or in-flight phases.

  1. Planning phase sources
  • Only a small popup window with wind info comes out when selecting dep\dest airports
  1. In cockpit sources
  • ATIS is, very often, unavailable. At least for italian airports (even important ones), where I use to fly more often
  • ATC is not giving relevant info when needed. Wind is told only at takeoff clearance (sometimes), QNH only when contacting departure. That’s quite unrealistic and not helpful.

Detailed weather info along route and, most important, at dest airport (metar and taf) are not available.
This is a very crucial thing for a realistic and satisfying flight sim experience!

My best regards,

Gabriele “Ibanez” from Italy

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MS - Can you include real-world weather reports using METAR data for airports - the enroute weather is fine (apart from the bugs that we know about), but departure and destination weather is frequently wrong - this being the most important part of the flight for accuracy. The inclusion of METARs would vastly improve the realism of the sim.

Reeeeally only such few people experiencing frustration about lack of weather info? :slightly_frowning_face:

Concur, and other real-world current weather products, such as NEXRAD.

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Yep. That too.

I agree, would solve lots of problems and more realistic in a sense.

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While they are at it, maybe they could figure out a way to get automated weather services to report weather that is actually occurring in the sim, instead of weather that may occur. Often the winds reported by ATIS/AWOS/ASOS are way more dramatic than what is actually happening. The FAA definition of automated weather service is conditions that are updated once a minute.

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Voted as instructed, Senor Abriael!

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Why thank you :smiley:

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voted, much needed me thinks

Voted. Don’t really see them changing the current setup though.

This would not require changing the current setup at all. It’s be based on it.

The real-world weather system seems to be a work in progress. There are multiple posts on the Bugs and Issues subforum about real-world weather not matching METAR reports. The latest “Known Issues” snapshot from October 13th includes the following line:

“We use METAR reports and Meteoblue weather forecasts to represent the live weather experienced in the sim. They are updated at regular intervals, but they can lack precision. Most of the time they will match but sometimes, they will not.”

Over the past few weeks of flying, I’ve experienced weather irregularities that could be caused by combining METARs with 3-D model data, and I’d like to point it out as a counter-point to the many posts that are asking for better METAR integration.

On multiple occasions flying over large bodies of water (the Great Lakes in the USA or flying from mainland Florida to Key West), I’ve suddenly run into a violent wind shift that rocked the airplane, changed my indicated airspeed, and in one case, was combined with a sudden change in cloud cover. I suspect this might be caused by discontinuities in METAR data between the two nearest weather stations, which could be quite far apart. Rather than creating a smooth transition between stations, the sim is creating a sharp change which is very unrealistic.

Now, one way of solving this would be to introduce more smoothing in the 3-D weather after importing the latest METARs for the sim, but the result will always be a compromise. The METARs will rarely perfectly match the 3-D model data from MeteoBlue, so more smoothing will be necessary to combine the influence from both data sources.

As a meteorologist, I know that raw observations are often physically inconsistent with model data. In fact, 3-D numerical models typically require some type of “spin-up” process to resolve physical imbalances in the raw observations and produce a “best-guess” picture of the current weather which is physically consistent in the model’s gridspace.

In light of that issue, combining METAR reports with model data will always be a compromise. In an ideal world, I would like to see a more customizable real-world weather system which would allow a user to select whether METAR observations will be used to supplement the model data. Overall, I think pure model data can provide a better flying experience than a hybrid model/METAR mix, but it should be combined with a much more robust ability to interrogate the simulated weather for flight planning.

I don’t need the weather to match real-life in every detail at every location, but I need to know what conditions I’m going to be flying through. If I can’t access the details of the simulated weather, and if the simulated weather doesn’t match the recent METARs, my flight planning ability is limited. Rather than making sure that the weather is exactly like the recent METARs, I think it should be a higher priority for the sim to provide better weather data on the simulated environment. Simulated METARs derived from the sim’s real-world weather information would be extremely valuable – much more than making the real-world weather match the METARs in every detail.

I would be happy if ATIS would correctly report current weather being depicted in the simulator, and ATC would assign a runway appropriate for the wind.

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It would be very simple, as much of the weather info is displayed ingame to the left bottom for the departure airport before hitting “Ready to fly”. Such an info sign could be duplicated at least on the outside view screen where a lot of airplane data is shown anyway.

So much frustration comes from inconsistencies between real life METARs and in-game MeteoBlue weather. I’m fine with MeteoBlue weather even if it doesn’t match real weather from time to time, but please give us METARs based on in-game weather so we could plan our flights properly!

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