Inadvertently increased FPS & Resolution

Maybe GeForce experience set that as the optimal render settings for FS2020 with that card and a 1080p monitor. The game is cpu limited anyway, 3070 is overkill for 1080p. I can set my 1060 to 150 render scale and it makes no difference with 100 render scale in FS2020. (1080p display)

I unsinstalled GeForce experience, does more harm than help imo. Anyway you can see the actual render resolution listed at the render scale. And it does look better 4K rendering downsampled to 1080p, so you didn’t suffer :wink: I usually play with 200 renderscale (4K downsampled to 1080p by the game) which makes the game GPU limited and gives me a sharper image and less fluctuations in fps.

I dont know how SDK works but…every building and tree are objects? I mean…if they are, the sim needs to calculate their positions and their behaviour (even if it means “stopped”), and (I think) it uses processors and cores to “solve” all this math.
The sim could not simply “transform” a city in only one huge object, once this city will not move? It could save some performance, mainly in huge cities.

Whilst the city does not move, you do move. From a rendering point of view it does not matter if you are stationary and the whole city moves or the city is stationary and you move.

This is absolutely not true, you will never see 4K on a 1080p monitor regardless how high your rendering is on a 1080p monitor. If you haven’t upgraded your monitor like the many people that have, you won’t understand. What you actually see in reality is significant different to the theory in a positive way.

Upgrading to a higher resolution monitor and reducing the rendering scale will give you a better image quality when FPS is a constant.

I used to run a 1080p monitor at 130 rendering, I upgraded to 2K at 100 rendering, my FPS is exactly the same, however my image quality is significant better. So much better that I linked a post just above. You need to actually upgrade your screen and see the results for yourself as I and many others have done. I opted for 2K as other games may struggle with a 4K monitor that do not have a rendering scale option.

I thought you said FPS will go down by using a 4K monitor? You even accused me of trolling (on a thread that I created!)

Clearly what you were saying is not true as other people are saying they are using a 4K monitor without an FPS drop, yet you say with conviction that that is not true. Maybe you should try it out yourself then you will understand.

Look at the last 2 comments from others they have said exactly the same as what I was saying at the beginning. Are they wrong too?

I did upgrade my monitor and did exactly the same as you, this is what I said at the beginning of this post. The picture quality is so much better on the 4K monitor.
My wording probably wasn’t right when I said “the same” what I should have said is you can make it look similar to 4K if you increase the render scaling on a 1080p monitor. I’m glad you have had similar experience as me though.

Would be interesting to know if your system was actually rendering in 4K on the 1080p monitor like mine seems to have been doing?

The imagine quality would improve rendering at 200% on a 1080p monitor, or setting 4K in Nvidia and setting 4K in the sim at 100% rendering.

However the image quality on a 1080p monitor rendering at 200% will not match the quality of a native 4K screen rendering at 70/80%, hence why the quality for performance is much better on a higher resolution screen. This is the point many people are missing, what you see in person on a 2K or 4K monitor looks and performs significantly different to the general theory, I can only speak for MSFS as it has the rendering scale capability, on other games, the general theory may be the case.

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Thank you, this is the point I was trying to make. Instead everyone kept saying it was impossible and that I was the one that doesn’t understand.

Maybe I wasn’t explaining it right.

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I don’t blame them, I also thought the same, there are 3 things that persuaded me to upgrade to a higher monitor.

  1. https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/75t_jRQII4w

  2. My 2070 SUPER 4K settings and suggestions - episode 2

  3. My own research between a 2K and a 4K monitor for general gaming. I was confident 4K will run MSFS on high settings at 70/80% rendering, I just wasn’t sure if other games will run well with 4K, so I opted for 2K and I have no regrets at all. My advice is if you can borrow a 4K or/and a 2K monitor, do so and try it for yourself. Try the settings mentioned in link 2.

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That’s not what you said at all, you said 80% of 4k on a 4k monitor gets better fps than rendering at 100% at 1080 on a 1080 monitor, which is clearly wrong?
Then you show screenshots which are also wrong as both are on a 4k monitor?
If you want the best picture then render at 100% on a 4k monitor, but you will get lower fps, not higher :+1:

It ain’t rocket science :grin:

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Both of those screenshots are not on a 4K monitor at all. If you read the latest posts it looks like my PC was possibly rendering at 4K on my 1080p monitor. I know what I took screenshots off as I did it!

One is from a 1080p monitor and the other a 4K monitor.

I said that adjusting the render scaling to 80 on my 4K monitor was getting me better frame rates than the render scaling being 100 on my 1080p monitor. This is what the screenshots are off and you can clearly see that the 4K monitor has higher FPS.

What’s so hard to understand about that? I think your not getting what I’m saying.

I think the point here is anyone running the sim on a 1080p monitor should check what their graphics card is rendering at. It appears that mine was rendering at 4K the whole time on a 1080p monitor( when I say rendering I don’t mean the ‘render scaling’ in the sim graphics settings, I mean the DRS setting in the Nvidia control panel). Once switching to a 4K monitor my performance was not affected at it was still rendering 4K. But this time was seeing the added quality on the 4K monitor.

If you have DRS on and are running on a 1080p monitor. Test it with it turned off and see if you get an FPS boost. It’s worth a try.

OK do you agree then that 1080 on a 1080 monitor will give anyone far better fps than 4k on a 4k monitor if your pc is properly set up, can you agree on that at least?

Yes I agree on that. However I did not realise that my PC’s GPU was actually rendering at 4K. Not everybody checks their graphics card settings in Windows, I certainly didn’t. I assumed that as my I was connected to a 1080p monitor and my PC had k it ever been connected to a 1080p monitor that my graphics card would have automatically recognised this. Only one person on here mentioned checking the DRS setting in the Nvidia control panel. Yet others who talk like they know everything didn’t even mention it. My point is that you shouldn’t automatically think people are lying about what they have experienced and just tell them they are wrong. Another guy on here even said that he thought I was trolling as it was impossible to get the same FPS results on a 4K monitor. For me it wasn’t impossible it’s just that there was something going in my PC that is probably happening to a lot of others.

This was always a fact, I think there was a miss communication/understanding, however the fact remains that running a 2K monitor or a 4K monitor on the above systems is a win win, for best quality for a given FPS when the rendering scale is decreased.

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PC settings is a complicated beast!

I had a blast reading this topic :slightly_smiling_face:. At the end of the day I think everybody learned something…

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This right here is proof you are trolling. Your images show that you were rendering the game at 4K while using a 1080p monitor. You now simply upgraded your screen but you lowered your rendering resolution hence your small bump in FPS. Stop this nonsense, you’re making yourself look foolish. I and a number of others in this thread already explained it to you and yet you continue to push this ridiculousness. If that isn’t trolling than what is?

Uh… I am running 2K,a super ultrawide at 5120x1440. It’s the same as two 27" 2K screens. I also have a 4K TV and work as an IT Professional for the past 22 years. I know the difference, thank you very much. The point is this guy just simply cannot grasp that you do not gain fps by going from 1080p to 4K, you lose fps. He saw a gain cause he was oblivious to the fact that he was running the game at 4K resolution on a 1080p monitor. Then he upgraded to a 4K screen and lowered his render scaling to 80% thereby pushing less pixels and getting more FPS.

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