Maybe some data concerning this airport is missing then ,causing the logbook issues.
I had the same issue with an airport near Zakynthos a week or 2 ago…Island just North of it called Kefalonia airport I think,but since I won’t be able to get ingame for a while I can’t go check.
But maybe it would be interesting to know if Navigraph chart can find only VOR of Kefalonia airport too or not
If you mean Kafallinia LGKF then it is there. I don’t think your issue was NAV data related, but the phase of flight as shown in Objectives.
1 Like
I will check on this /test once I am able to play again.
1 Like
First thing I did when being able to play again was fly to DTTR El Borma again.
It had same result as previous time.I think something is wrong with the sequence of objectives. I landed 1 time ,it didn’t recognize it ,during the whole landing attempt there were “no objectives” first try
![20210731133907_1|690x388]
when I got on the ground I got a big list of options this time.I decided to “go around” & land again.
During the go around the objectives did upgrade during landing phase.
But same result as first land attempt even when going through all the checkboxes ; no option to taxi to parking. But an end flight in objectives
At the parking there was a spot which I thought,if I park there,it might still recognize it & end the flight.
Then I switched on autopilot in the hope that it would position the plane in a way it would end the flight,but it didnt ,the plane just made a turn & I was not sure what it was up to.
Maybe something is wrong in the order of guidelines or so.
Wanted to link this in the “logbook not updating” topic ,but it seems that topic is “resolved” & closed down.Not sure where to report this.
1 Like
Even if the logbook pop up doesn’t occur, if you quit to main menu from there it should log your flight.
But depending on where you parked, you may get a “vicinity” log entry. That usually happens if you park at an airport with parking, but are nowhere near that parking. That said, I have had one occasion where it happened even when I was on the parking spot where the marshals were waiting for me.
1 Like
Hi, thanks for your input on this discussion. El Borma (DTTR) actually has parking by default and probably isn’t in the scope of the issue about airports without parking.
Please ask the moderator @ScruffyDuckJon to move your post to Sim Update V (1.18.13.0) Bug Megathread
FSEconomy users need parking too…
Hi
On many small airports or airstrips we can only spawn on the runways. Therefore, it’s not possible to start the flight in cold and dark mode.
I would like to have one (minimum) parking place on these ADs to start my flight.
Note: if you are flying on IVAO or VATSIM, it’s forbidden to start a flight directly on the runway. These ADs are therefore not “compatible” with IVAO and VATSIM 
linked thread : Mod to add Parking at smaller airstrips that don't have parking?
There was a time where I was adding parking spots to any airport I flew to that didn’t have any. I was also taking requests. It was a quick process of less than 5 minutes, so I hatched a plan: I had acquired a list of every public and private airport in my state. I then checked each one on the world map and took note of the ones without parking. I was going to go state by state, adding parking to every airport in the United States, eventually having it all packaged into a single freeware download. It was a surprisingly fast process. Then they updated the SDK to require you to create taxiways in order to add a parking spot. I dropped the whole project due to the sudden increase of time I’d have to dedicate to it, as well as a lack of desire to relearn how to do something I had already been easily doing. (It didn’t add much time to a single airport, but I was doing thousands of airports.)
I’m sure what I was doing could be done by adobe with a simple script. In my opinion, we should have the option to spawn anywhere on the ground we want, like you can in the air. Parking spots make sense for the gates, but anywhere else should be available too.
I like to fly the Spit and others from small airstrips. Often these have parking on the grass with no taxiways. Sometimes there is even a flat aeroplane on the ground from the satellite pics, but still no in-sim parking. It would be great to get this fixed.
Please excuse my ignorance as I have not flown on IVAO or VATSIM. Small uncontrolled airports do not require ATC services. Does IVAO and VATSIM require you to engage ATC while in uncontrolled airspace and at uncontrolled airports?
Clearly, the easiest feature to do would be to allow to choose the altitude of free spawn points
A simple option to choose “on the ground” or “in flight” would perhaps be the quickest. If you choose “ground” you are in cold and dark mode.
2 Likes
It is a nuisance but what I do id shut the A/C down & slew it to a suitable location. Restart the aircraft from cold. Sure the ATC gets a bit wonky but at least you can start & taxi to the rwy.
1 Like
“Many” is an understatement. I’d say the majority of rural airports lack parking places. And the majority of total airports are rural airports. So do the math.
More than half the global airports are unusable for me because I am not willing to spawn with engines running on the runway.
The problem:
Many grass strips / airfields lack designated parking areas in the simulator, making it impossible to choose to start “cold and dark.” Maybe this is a feature request, but I consider the missing menu option a bug.
This is an issue if you want a little bit of realism while “bush flying” and exploring.
Reproduce by selecting for example “ESUI” in Sweden or “EDRM” in Germany. (Picked completely by random from grass strips, no preference).
Potential solutions:
If the gate/parking list is empty, then
- auto-generate new “parking” spot(s) (next to each end of the field, midfield, or wherever there are no trees or buildings), or
- add “Parked” or “Cold & dark” options mirroring the runway start positions using the same spots (but starting cold and dark), or
- start “cold & dark” by default. It’s way faster/easier to press Ctrl-e to get started, than it is to shut everything down to reset.
Of course, another option is to make sure all grass fields have designated parking areas, but any of the solutions suggested above will serve well in the meantime.
Edit
Any solution allowing the “cold and dark” option is welcome, but as many have stated elsewhere, the option to start on the runway is already breaking the immersion. Having planes appearing on runways with engines off makes it even worse.
For this reason, I’d prefer the auto-generated parking-spots next to the field, if possible. At least with the multiplayer options. “Cold and dark on the runway” should really only be allowed in single player mode.
Yes, I agree with you. Voted.
totally agree!!
This could be easily solved by just adding an extra toggle in general to the flight selection screen to either start cold/dark or with engine running. Just making it completely seperate from where you choose to start
1 Like
Agree with you.
+1 
Hopefully we can get cold and dark starts everywhere.
Also a cool idea is to have to separate buttons on the worldmap.
1: ready to taxi
2: cold and dark
Cheers